Chat Control approved: Certain EU countries will see your private messages. Is yours on the list?
https://euroweeklynews.com/2025/11/29/chat-control-approved-certain-eu-countries-will-see-your-private-messages-is-yours-on-the-list/
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irelephant@programming.dev · 54 pts · 251d
To save you a click, countries supporting the implementation: Spain, Romania, Portugal, Malta Lithuania, Hungary, Ireland, France, Denmark, Croatia, Cyprus, and Bulgaria.
Countries undecided: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Slovakia, and Sweden.
Countries against: Slovenia, the Netherlands, Poland, Luxembourg, Germany, Estonia, Finland, the Czech Republic, and Austria
Slayer@infosec.pub · 17 pts · 251d
This list is outdated, see here fightchatcontrol.eu
Randelung@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 251d
How the fuck is Germany in favor when all representatives oppose / are unknown?
a4ng3l@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 251d
I’m waiting for the notes on that meeting and how it affects Belgium’s position because from what I see here our MPs have approved only a temporary regime until April ‘26 with limitations until and actual set of rules is voted.
Blaze@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 251d
Damn
Blaze@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 251d
Thanks
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 3 pts · 251d
🙇♀️
Time to learn 4 languages😭
20cello@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 251d
Ok,let's start scanning politicians and priests devices
sip@programming.dev · 12 pts · 251d
they are explicitly excluded, right?
antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 251d
Ding ding ding
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 251d
This is fucked.
I get the arguments about csam, but get a fucking warrant and do proper police work.
The carve out for politicians is the indicator that this is not about CSAM.
Just look at Epstein, he was buddies with a ton of politicians and this law would have protected all of them.
And how long until this gets expanded. “Oh, we have to catch football piracy”. “Now we have to scan to catch criminals and terrorists”. And soon it’s whatever politicians think threatens them. It’s too much power for anyone to have, even with a noble cause taped to the front.
I’m beyond disappointed in the list of countries supporting this.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 251d
Also, will not stop csam.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 251d
Not from you…
myrmidex@belgae.social · 23 pts · 251d
Europe sliding towards authoritarianism, while the far-right surge in the individual countries is still to manifest itself properly in the EU parliament. I cannot see this going well.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 251d
If the USA has taught us anything, it's that we can always count on Liberals and Conservatives to forget all their differences and display radical bipartisanship in expanding the surveillance state and building big brother for fascism.
antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 251d
It was always class war.
Two sides of a duopoly upholding capitalism? Of course they will degenerate into a uniparty structure to uphold the powers that be.
This is not a lesson to be learned from the US but rather a lesson to learn from innumerable instances of this EXACT thing happening in elections and revolutions throughout history.
No war but class war. Everything else is just a distraction.
Arkthos@pawb.social · 19 pts · 251d
Fuuck this shit and my piece of shit country for supporting this idiocy.
All the more reason to use a VPN. We'll see what measures various apps will end up implementing.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 3 pts · 251d
I 🙏 u teach’m physical lessons they won't forget.
Dagnet@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 251d
I thought this had been blocked like, just a few weeks ago?
toebert@piefed.social · 10 pts · 251d
Luckily they can just keep proposing it nonstop until everyone is burnt out from constantly fighting it while also working a day job.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 250d
When you base coordination on violent enforcement, tyranny is inevitable. You have a mechanism for crushing opposition aglnd silencing the population that is not just built in but essential, even definitional, to the functioning of the thing.
Even aside from all the absolute fucking pandoras box of moral hazards and perverse incentives this creates, just running it long enough will eventually cause this shit to accrue, like a windows install.
States are not a good solution.
scutiger@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 251d
The people need to fight it every time it pops up. It only needs a passing vote one time.
Now it's too late.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 251d
Well, your politicians have names and addresses. Ask them to fix this.
While they're sleeping.
ueiqkkwhuwjw@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 251d
I think this is a misleading article and headline.
My understanding is that the proposal has now been officially approved and suggested by the EU Council (one of the bodies that can ask the EU Commission to present/draft a law)
It now goes on to the EU Commission who will analyze the proposal and potentially draft a law. However, AFAIK they can also stop the proposal at this stage.
If the EU Commission decides to draft a law and it then needs to be approved by the EU Parliament and EU Council (again). Only at this point does it become law.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 6 pts · 251d
Seeing as how we're the dickheads who suggested it, yes.
Dojan@pawb.social · 4 pts · 251d
Ylva Johansson is a Swedish politician.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 251d
All right, fair. Allow me to amend that to 'championed it' then. We're still fucking dickheads all the same.
Dojan@pawb.social · 5 pts · 251d
Aren’t we all, buddy? Aren’t we all. :(
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 251d
American here. Looks around. Couldn't agree more.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 251d
I prefer their cousin, Scarlett
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 2 pts · 251d
EU 📰 Release.