HDMI Forum is unwilling to disclose the 2.1 specification for open-source (Linux): according to AMD, they had submitted a functional, HDMI 2.1-compatible driver [for linux?], which the Forum rejected.
https://www.heise.de/en/news/Valve-HDMI-Forum-Continues-to-Block-HDMI-2-1-for-Linux-11107440.html
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onlinepersona@programming.dev · 48 pts · 239d
Beuh, fuck the HDMI forum. I hope the spec is leaked and somebody just makes a kernel module which implements it.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 239d
I realize this is probably a solved problem for Windows pirates, but how do you trust the kernel if it's not from a legal reputable source?
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 5 pts · 238d
What makes a legal source reputable? Do you think Microsoft is "reputable"?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 238d
Being reviewed and used by many people. So if it's just some guy releasing kernels by himself, then I'd be worried that it might include malware.
I know Windows is garbage, but I assume the people pirating it don't see it that way, and do care about additional malware. So I'm curious how they approach this problem. Do they just not care about malware in their OS because it's already that bad?
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 5 pts · 238d
HDMI support can be released as a kernel module. It need not be an entire kernel. That can be put on a repository and reviewed, included in distribution, then built on installation using DKMS. That's how most opensource works.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 238d
Ah OK. When you said the spec would be leaked, I mistakenly assumed lawyer problems.
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 4 pts · 238d
Oh, for sure lawyers would be pissed, but DRM was cracked multiple times and ended up in distributions. H264 is patented and still linux distributions can use it. CDs and DVDs were ripped with opensource software after their encryption was cracked (master key retrieved from CD/DVD players) and that was also distributed in order to play them. Popcorn Time was hosted on github for a good while. There are many examples.
If HDMI2 were leaked, I'm confident it would end up in a linux distro and there isn't much the lawyers could do. They could play whack a mole to take down the domains hosting it, but then somebody would just out it on a torrent or host it in a country that give a fuck about the lawyers and that would be that.
nukeforyou@lemmy.zip · 43 pts · 240d
Why even bother with HDMI??
ooh I love to pay royalties to and get permission to use the technology and the trademark. /s
Davel23@fedia.io · 46 pts · 240d
Because love it or hate it, HDMI is the main interface that the vast majority of TVs use.
jonne@infosec.pub · 30 pts · 240d
For this specific device you want to be able to hook it up to a TV, and unfortunately TVs tend to come with HDMI, not the superior displayport.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 239d
Find me a TV that's both designed for gaming and has a DisplayPort. Hell, find me any consumer TV with the port. Remember that the Steam Machine is intended for the living room big screen, not a 27" gaming monitor.
refalo@programming.dev · 2 pts · 239d
https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Momentum-558M1RY-DisplayHDR1000-Replacement/dp/B08FJJB9TL
https://www.amazon.com/PG65UQ-Monitor-Ultimate-DisplayPort-Displayhdr1000/dp/B07VTTWWWK
https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-Gaming-Monitor-True-Life/dp/B07YSVF47Q
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/hp-omen-emperium-65-led-4k-uhd-g-sync-ultimate-monitor-with-hdr-displayport-hdmi-usb-black-green/JJ8QRKXQX6
There are several 43" options as well.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 239d
Um, I said TV, and all three of these are monitors. Niche monitors at that too, none of them are even in stock.
Furthermore, how many console gamers do you know who have a 55" Alienware monitor in their living room? I did say consumer TV as well, ya know.
refalo@programming.dev · 4 pts · 239d
What is your definition of TV in this context? All of these are 55"+, some even show pictures of it in a living room...
Psythik@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
Look: It doesn't matter what you think is and isn't a TV, the fact of the matter is that the target market doesn't have one of these and doesn't care. They've got their $300 65" Hisense from Walmart, and guess what? Those TVs don't have DisplayPort. That's the point.
Now please stop being a pedantic jerk just for the sake of a it and go away.
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
Aren't you literally being pedantic on the definition? They're both displays in the 55 inch range that can display media and are made for consumers.
You're the one who keeps moving the goalposts.
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
https://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/559M1RYV_00/momentum-4k-hdr-display-with-ambiglow
OLED: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/alienware-aw5520qf-55-inch-oled-gaming-monitor
There's also some from Asus I think
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 239d
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B015OW3GJK
There's always this option, could even include something like it in the box.
x00z@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 239d
That's a passive cable and would require DP++. Funnily enough it would also require a HDMI 2.1 capable driver.
entwine@programming.dev · 1 pts · 239d
That probably won't work. It will get basic video and maybe audio through, but not features like VRR, which is why you'd care about HDMI 2.1 support at all
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 6 pts · 239d
It will be replaced by GDMI which the Chinese invented in the future anyway.
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 239d
Did they also invent time travel?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 239d
They will invented it
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 4 pts · 239d
That's coming in V2
saphiron@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 240d
Archive link
Scrollone@feddit.it · 11 pts · 239d
We need to stop using HDMI, we must force screen makers to switch to DisplayPort.
ikidd@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 240d
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Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 8 pts · 239d
It's "pay or OK", the "pur" subscription isn't needed for viewing the content. They'll probably gonna stick to that until the highest court has finally ruled that "pay or OK" is not OK at all.
entwine@programming.dev · 5 pts · 239d
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