That's not how networks work. Emergent properties scale with size. You simply can not have kinds of communities the fediverse expects without also creating the problem of centralization. There were extensive discussions around this about two years ago, but it's a fundamental design limitation right now.
I think we saw the worst case already when lemm.ee shut itself down. Some communities moved to other instances. Some lemm.ee content still lives on in the database “cache” of other instances and is accessible.
That depends almost entirely on the instance. Lemmy.ml is the one that the Lemmy devs use for beta testing, and yet it’s still more reliable than many.
AFAIK, all Lemmy instances run on a shoestring budget, because there’s no revenue model. There’s only self-funding out of personal passion and possibly donations, and five nines is expensive.
Yeah, happens all the time with all kinds of different instances. Just do yourself a favor and set-up an account on at least three but preferably around eight different instances and then maybe if you're super lucky you'll always be able to find at least one that's up and running when you want to get on.
Also, one of my big gripes is that so many Lemmy instances have various uptime monitoring services in place, but then when you check those while the site appears to be down, they almost always indicate that the site is fully operational and just fine. Those things are close to being useless, anecdotally speaking.
If people don't want lemmy.world constantly taken down, is there a preferable instance I can go to and attract heat and get that taken down instead? An instance people aren't a fan of?
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NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 242d
However would we cope without yanks coming into every community to talk about “this administration” unprompted and regardless of context?
Fredselfish@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 243d
Looks that way. Wonder Lemmy will ever become popular enough if they can't keep it up.
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al · 12 pts · 243d
That's exactly why decentralisation is good.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com · 4 pts · 243d
Yeah but it's a lot of users to lose, many people will be too lazy to join another instance
Losing the communities would have an interesting effect though
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al · 13 pts · 243d
This is why as a community, we should've never allowed things to centralise on LW in the first place.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 243d
That's not how networks work. Emergent properties scale with size. You simply can not have kinds of communities the fediverse expects without also creating the problem of centralization. There were extensive discussions around this about two years ago, but it's a fundamental design limitation right now.
davel@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 243d
I think we saw the worst case already when lemm.ee shut itself down. Some communities moved to other instances. Some lemm.ee content still lives on in the database “cache” of other instances and is accessible.
davel@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 243d
That depends almost entirely on the instance. Lemmy.ml is the one that the Lemmy devs use for beta testing, and yet it’s still more reliable than many.
AFAIK, all Lemmy instances run on a shoestring budget, because there’s no revenue model. There’s only self-funding out of personal passion and possibly donations, and five nines is expensive.
m33@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 243d
Possible hosting problem? Sharkey.world is down too
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com · 4 pts · 243d
they're back up now
Auster@thebrainbin.org · 3 pts · 243d
Just tried opening the home page and appears active for me. Maybe routing issues for specific regions?
Auster@thebrainbin.org · 3 pts · 243d
Still, hiccups every now and then could be good to make people look for backup instances
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 242d
Yeah, happens all the time with all kinds of different instances. Just do yourself a favor and set-up an account on at least three but preferably around eight different instances and then maybe if you're super lucky you'll always be able to find at least one that's up and running when you want to get on.
Also, one of my big gripes is that so many Lemmy instances have various uptime monitoring services in place, but then when you check those while the site appears to be down, they almost always indicate that the site is fully operational and just fine. Those things are close to being useless, anecdotally speaking.
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 242d
Wonder if it's cloudflare again
DaMummy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 243d
If people don't want lemmy.world constantly taken down, is there a preferable instance I can go to and attract heat and get that taken down instead? An instance people aren't a fan of?
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 242d
People could host their own instance guess