Australian PM proposes tougher national gun laws after mass shooting in Sydney

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/australian-pm-proposes-tougher-national-gun-laws-after-mass-shooting-in-sydney-9.7015801

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Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 263d (14 replies)

Hey Americans, take notes

x_pikl_x@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 262d

Take note on how to vote with emotions? Precisely how we got to where we are actually. Perhaps it's Australia that should take note on what not to do. Strengthen what's already working and move forward as a country.

Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub · -20 pts · 263d (12 replies)
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SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 263d (6 replies)

I’m sure these new laws will work as well as the last ones.

Australia gun deaths: 0.90 per 100,000 people

US Gun deaths: 13.7 per 100,000 people.

Canada Gun deaths: 0.78 per 100,000 people.

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 262d

Wow, I had no idea we had fewer per capita gun deaths than Australia.

Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub · -21 pts · 263d (4 replies)
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AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 263d (1 reply)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Still significantly lower. But also that's a weak dodge from your initial failed argument.

Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub · -9 pts · 263d
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FaceDeer@fedia.io · 12 pts · 263d (1 reply)

Are you suggesting that gun control laws cause arson? Like, I want to rob some guy but I don't have a gun, guess I'll set him on fire?

Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub · -17 pts · 263d
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Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 263d (4 replies)

Tbh i have no idea about gun control laws in Australia. Haha

theyoyomaster@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 263d (3 replies)

They are highly effective at ensuring that people who do not break laws cannot get guns easily.

cammoblammo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d (1 reply)

They also make it harder for people who do break laws to get guns easily.

theyoyomaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d

Cool, so only criminals who are slightly dedicated to breaking the law get guns and no one else. Got it.

SuiXi3D@fedia.io · -2 pts · 263d

Obviously.

Bgugi@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 263d

Oh, this is going to be a fun thread!

usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 263d

I've always seen Australia as a success story for gun control so am a bit skeptical that it needs changing. There's a decent argument that the balance was already found 30 years ago, but it's a complicated topic and tensions are high right now so whatever the right move is, it's less likely to be found during the period when a more knee-jerk response can override those considerations.

kwero@sh.itjust.works · -14 pts · 263d (2 replies)

The man arrived in Australia in 1998 on a student visa, authorities said, and was an Australian resident when he died. Officials wouldn't confirm what country he had migrated from.

A foreigner should not be allowed to obtain a gun licence.

This is the first loophole that needs to be closed.

tocano@piefed.social · 5 pts · 263d (1 reply)

The paragraph you quoted says he was Australian.

kwero@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 262d

Australian resident, not citizen. That's not exactly the same thing.