The antitrust case against Valve is falling apart after plaintiffs used weak, unreliable sources to counter Valve’s sworn statements

https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/Steam/comments/1pn3jm0/the_antitrust_case_against_valve_is_collapsing/

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.298754/gov.uscourts.wawd.298754.552.0.pdf

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KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 49 pts · 248d (1 reply)

Unless I'm missing something, "valve's own website's admission" is just a Steam community submission? That's like saying Facebook admits that the government is run by reptilians and birds aren't real and citing some boomer conspiracy theorist's posts as the primary source.

ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 248d

Yep, written by a random user talking about what Valve did with their own WON services and not the company itself, here is the link

ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 41 pts · 248d

Jesus Christ if these mf actually used AI to write the case I'll lose my mind.

Why on earth you use AI without any fucking human intervention in a billionaire case like this? How a real human being will see a wiki as a factual evidence or worst, a random guide written by a random internet user on the steam platform.

If anyone is curious How to install Ricochet version WON + expansions is archived. The fucking AI scrapped the internet and found this segment "In 2001, Valve acquired WON from Flipside.com and began to implement the Steam system in beta form. Over the next few years, as Steam was developed and tested, WON continued to operate. Valve shut down the last of its WON servers on July 31, 2004. All online portions of Valve's games were transferred to their own Steam system." hosted on a steam website and """thought""" this is a Valve admission.

sampao@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 248d (1 reply)

Now antitrust the telecom and streaming services. I'll wait

GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 248d

While that would be nice to see, if they do it as poorly as this case appears to be going, the wrong group would benefit.

Zahille7@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 248d

I'm sorry but whoever put together the text in the picture types like a goddamn jerk. It honestly frustrated me so much just reading it that I had to force myself to finish.

GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 248d

Second, Valve argues that the plausibility of Consumer Plaintiffs’ claims hinge on allegations that Valve acquired Sierra’s World Opponent Network (“WON”), which Valve contests with a single affidavit. That argument fails for multiple reasons. The Court must reject Valve’s extrinsic evidence, which is contrary to its public admissions, at this stage. Regardless, the Complaint does not turn on these allegations. Valve’s relationship with WON, whether by acquisition or otherwise, helps explain how Valve has had monopoly power in digital PC game distribution since the beginning. But it is not the only relevant fact. Independent of WON, Valve leveraged its enormous installed user base and popular PC game franchises to force gamers onto Steam, such that when Valve began selling third-party games in 2005, it already held a monopolist position.

From the document you linked.