Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
Hilarious saga. I kinda enjoyed their downfall because they were a crow guy but people asked them about all kinds of nature questions and a lot of what they said outside of their expertise was wrong...
But me with the right answer was sitting with 2 upvotes while Unidan got 1000.
It bothers me a lot how Apple became the de-facto setters of Emoji, even though the actual body behind them is much more complex and diverse.
Just check social media, it's filled with people asking "Apple, why this emoji and not this one?" or "Did you see the new emojis that Apple added to the iPhone?" and so on. But it goes beyond, if Apple's emojis depict a figure in a particular way, almost everybody else will clone that depiction on their fonts too, meaning Apple gets to set the interpretation of a given Emoji almost across all platforms.
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funkajunk@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 221d
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 221d
Hoo boy that takes me back. What was their name again?
PartyBot@feddit.uk · 30 pts · 221d
Unidan
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 221d
Hilarious saga. I kinda enjoyed their downfall because they were a crow guy but people asked them about all kinds of nature questions and a lot of what they said outside of their expertise was wrong...
But me with the right answer was sitting with 2 upvotes while Unidan got 1000.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 221d
Riiiiight
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 221d
kadu@scribe.disroot.org · 49 pts · 221d
It bothers me a lot how Apple became the de-facto setters of Emoji, even though the actual body behind them is much more complex and diverse.
Just check social media, it's filled with people asking "Apple, why this emoji and not this one?" or "Did you see the new emojis that Apple added to the iPhone?" and so on. But it goes beyond, if Apple's emojis depict a figure in a particular way, almost everybody else will clone that depiction on their fonts too, meaning Apple gets to set the interpretation of a given Emoji almost across all platforms.
GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 221d
I can't believe Tim Apple invented all those emojis himself!
jlow@discuss.tchncs.de · 35 pts · 221d
I mean, I love them both but we still need a crow
fossilesque@mander.xyz · 48 pts · 221d
Venat0r@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 221d
🐦⬛
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 15 pts · 221d
That's a whole lot of inaccessible text stuffed in an image where a link would have made sense for everybody.
Venat0r@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 221d
https://mefi.social/@HarryRutherford/109935858214218911
https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2019/19307-crow-emoji.pdf
AlexLost@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 221d
Soon they will eat crow when they realize their error
D@piefed.social · 1 pts · 221d
hehe
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 221d
Emojis were a mistake.
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
Mostly unrelated, but -- are there any black birds that sing in the dead of night?? Was McCartney high when he heard that?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 220d
if there is i bet its an owl. or possibly bat.
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 221d
i added some links in my crosspost of this in !emoji@lemmy.ml: