The trouble is, the result was "this was brought to prosecution one day too late, we have no jurisdiction to judge this". Which isn't a vindication for either side.
I'd rather Mo Chara have his day in court and win the case on its merits, but I don't see that happening - there's not really any doubt he did what he was accused of.
They won't go to trial on purpose because they know they would lose and it would set a precedent. Thus they drag out the case and harrass them with lawfare. This is the Zionists tried and proven bullying tactic in the West.
they will appeal the decision of their own magistrates court
Ah yes, because normally governments only appeal the decisions of foreign courts?!
The UK government's record in Israel is abysmal, but if you drape yourself in the flag of an actual terrorist organisation and tell people to kill their MP - which is what the guy is alleged to have done - then legal repercussions seem appropriate.
There is that word again, terrorist. Who determines who's a terrorist and who is a freedom fighter? When the Algierians liberated themselves from the french they were terrorists, when zimbabwe liberated itself from the settler colonialism of Rhodesia they were labeled terrorist, when Iraqis fought back against their American occupiers they were called terrorist. So what is a terrorist other than an oppressed individual who opposes colonialism and imperialism through whatever means necessary? Who incites more terror, the oppressed person brought to immense violence or the empire who's oppression created them? Terrorist is a pejorative we use to dehumanize those who violently oppose their own destruction through any means available to them. I need you to think on this. I need you to genuinely wonder about who gets labelled terorist, why, and who the label serves. If the word had existed at the time the British would have called US revolutionaries terrorists. Hell, The French did call their revolutionaries terrorists. I wholeheartedly support Hamas in their fight against Israeli occupation and genocide. I encourage you to do the same. Read Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon
That's why it's quite pertinent that the flag in question was the flag of Hezbollah, not the flag of Hamas, and that they're alleged to have said "up Hezbollah" and "kill your MP". Put it all together and you don't get a bunch of honourable defenders of freedom.
I support Hezbollah wholeheartedly in their solidarity with the Palestinian people and their fight against western Imperialism. Mo Chara is correct on all fronts.
I ask because Hezbollah denies the holocaust and makes it clear they hate Jews in general, not just Israel and Zionism, so I don't see how you can oppose genocide and support an organisation would gladly carry one out given the chance.
Is it really that hard to oppose two sides in a conflict?
If that's true then call them genocide supporters of you like. But I agree that this word terrorist needs to be retired. It's way too nebulous and used almost exclusively to whitewash violence by states.
I don't care what Hezbollah believes and I don't have to. I am well aware of their flaws but I support them regardless because we cannot expect them to be perfect in their circumstances. The Algierians did not have perfect beliefs, the soviets didn't, the people of madagascar didn't, nor the Aztecs. I support all of them regardless. I do not expect perfection from people fighting for their right to exist and prosper. I even expect severe imperfection from them. This does not dissuade me. To expect that from them only serves imperialism. Are you honestly surprised so many Arabs deny the holocaust when the only jews so many of them have met were Israelis who use the Shoah as justification for colonialism? I probably wouldn't believe them either.
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HermitBee@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 214d
The trouble is, the result was "this was brought to prosecution one day too late, we have no jurisdiction to judge this". Which isn't a vindication for either side.
I'd rather Mo Chara have his day in court and win the case on its merits, but I don't see that happening - there's not really any doubt he did what he was accused of.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 210d
They won't go to trial on purpose because they know they would lose and it would set a precedent. Thus they drag out the case and harrass them with lawfare. This is the Zionists tried and proven bullying tactic in the West.
Shamber@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
Yet another demonstration of actually runs the UK, it's fucken pathetic
FishFace@piefed.social · -17 pts · 216d
Ah yes, because normally governments only appeal the decisions of foreign courts?!
The UK government's record in Israel is abysmal, but if you drape yourself in the flag of an actual terrorist organisation and tell people to kill their MP - which is what the guy is alleged to have done - then legal repercussions seem appropriate.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 216d
Sorry you must be confused, he didn’t drape himself in a zionist terrorist flag
knowone@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 216d
"We didn't get them enough extra plays and new fans last time, let's give it another go"
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 216d
There is that word again, terrorist. Who determines who's a terrorist and who is a freedom fighter? When the Algierians liberated themselves from the french they were terrorists, when zimbabwe liberated itself from the settler colonialism of Rhodesia they were labeled terrorist, when Iraqis fought back against their American occupiers they were called terrorist. So what is a terrorist other than an oppressed individual who opposes colonialism and imperialism through whatever means necessary? Who incites more terror, the oppressed person brought to immense violence or the empire who's oppression created them? Terrorist is a pejorative we use to dehumanize those who violently oppose their own destruction through any means available to them. I need you to think on this. I need you to genuinely wonder about who gets labelled terorist, why, and who the label serves. If the word had existed at the time the British would have called US revolutionaries terrorists. Hell, The French did call their revolutionaries terrorists. I wholeheartedly support Hamas in their fight against Israeli occupation and genocide. I encourage you to do the same. Read Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon
FishFace@piefed.social · -9 pts · 216d
That's why it's quite pertinent that the flag in question was the flag of Hezbollah, not the flag of Hamas, and that they're alleged to have said "up Hezbollah" and "kill your MP". Put it all together and you don't get a bunch of honourable defenders of freedom.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 216d
I support Hezbollah wholeheartedly in their solidarity with the Palestinian people and their fight against western Imperialism. Mo Chara is correct on all fronts.
FishFace@piefed.social · -5 pts · 216d
Do you oppose genocide?
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 216d
I know you are about to say some bullshit but sure why not, I'll bite
FishFace@piefed.social · 1 pts · 216d
I ask because Hezbollah denies the holocaust and makes it clear they hate Jews in general, not just Israel and Zionism, so I don't see how you can oppose genocide and support an organisation would gladly carry one out given the chance.
Is it really that hard to oppose two sides in a conflict?
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 216d
If that's true then call them genocide supporters of you like. But I agree that this word terrorist needs to be retired. It's way too nebulous and used almost exclusively to whitewash violence by states.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 216d
I don't care what Hezbollah believes and I don't have to. I am well aware of their flaws but I support them regardless because we cannot expect them to be perfect in their circumstances. The Algierians did not have perfect beliefs, the soviets didn't, the people of madagascar didn't, nor the Aztecs. I support all of them regardless. I do not expect perfection from people fighting for their right to exist and prosper. I even expect severe imperfection from them. This does not dissuade me. To expect that from them only serves imperialism. Are you honestly surprised so many Arabs deny the holocaust when the only jews so many of them have met were Israelis who use the Shoah as justification for colonialism? I probably wouldn't believe them either.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 5 pts · 216d