Nothing has ever escalated out of kidnapping the leader of a country we aren't even at war with

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mkwt@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 225d

Goddammit I'm getting news from NCD again.

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 225d (1 reply)

Yet! There's no reason to believe he can't get a formal declaration of war in this global environment of Nazi knob-slobbing.

PugJesus@piefed.social · 19 pts · 225d

Wouldn't matter, the same way Pearl Harbor wasn't retroactively legal when Japan declared war.

Utter fucking insanity. I wish I could afford to take up drinking.

atro_city@fedia.io · 4 pts · 225d (6 replies)

Watch how the amount of drugs entering the US won't change and he'll start another "special military operation" in some South American country.

PugJesus@piefed.social · 3 pts · 225d (1 reply)

Closer to home than that. He's literally already talking about Mexico next.

Drusas@fedia.io · 3 pts · 224d

Or Cuba. Or Iran.

DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 225d

RWM will say that drugs are reduced all thanks to Pedonald.

Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 225d (2 replies)

What is the SA country with the next most amount of oil?

atro_city@fedia.io · 4 pts · 225d (1 reply)

Doesn't have to be oil. They need rare earths which were found in Chile and who by chance just voted in a Pinochet apologist and Trump lover as president. Chile also has the second largest Lithium reserves to date on the planet. And Chile also has the largest copper reserves on the planet. Peru and Mexico aren't too shabby either.

Peru has copper and silver reserves.

Probably more if you look and project what resources future tech requires.

Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 225d

Chile has a pro-american trade relationship though, they would have to turn on that to make them a priority target.

Though this was mostly a joke statement

m8052@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 224d

What is Bolton doing in there ? Isn't he on the enemies list ?

Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 2 pts · 225d (5 replies)

That depends how useful that leader is. Some leaders' kidnappings will just end in a "good riddance" mood.

PugJesus@piefed.social · 17 pts · 225d (4 replies)

Most leaders are supported by a massive state apparatus which does not take removing its tools lightly.

Fuck Maduro, man, but that's not the same as giving this the thumbs up. Not only is this deeply illegal, but batshit insane to boot. It could end up well, but I could also buy a lotto ticket tomorrow and become a billionaire.

Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 1 pts · 225d (3 replies)

That "massive state apparatus" was probably the very same people who sell Maduro to the USA. You don't think that Americans kidnapped him ninja style, don't you?

And what does "legal" even mean on an international level? Deep concerns and memorandums? Nobody cares about them anymore...

PugJesus@piefed.social · 8 pts · 225d

That “massive state apparatus” was probably the very same people who sell Maduro to the USA.

There are much easier ways for a state apparatus to remove an unpopular leader than contracting with a foreign power to kidnap him from their soil, undermining the authority of that same state apparatus.

You don’t think that Americans kidnapped him ninja style, don’t you?

Bruh, of all the things that I think the US is shit at, military operations is not one of them.

I have no doubt that some Venezuelans were bribed. I also have no doubt that this was a legitimate kidnapping, not a strange form of autocoup by Venezuelan authorities.

And what does “legal” even mean on an international level? Deep concerns and memorandums? Nobody cares about them anymore…

That's kind of a fucking issue and why we've been looking at renewed nuclear proliferation the past decade.

protist@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 225d

Maduro's vice president and entire party apparatus are still there and still in power

Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 225d

Military strikes to keep the military busy while delta grabs the president, this wasn’t a complex operation.

If it stops now like Rubio said there won’t be much international condemnation especially by countries the US cares about.