I don't think this hits as hard as you want it to. "Natural" arguments are going to hit on their face because, well, animals eat other animals, and if you're only not drinking an animal's milk because it's not natural, then are you okay eating one? No, obviously not. I like the arguments from a corporate farming standpoint that treats animals unethically, because it is factually true and morally justifiable from most, if not all, viewpoints. You should incorporate that in more, it's hard to defend against, but don't use "it's natural" because that is not a good argument.
By this logic you could say you empty your bladder for the purpose of avoiding the embarrasment of urinating on yourself in public, rather than the biological purpose of excreting waste products.
So respectfully, nearly all of these same points about the product being taken could just as easily apply to plants. The chilli pepper plant does not give us peppers willingly and is also exploited and this all comes at the cost of it reproducing.
Does this chili pepper has a mind, feel fear and pain? Does this chili pepper cries for days because her children were taken to the the slaughterhouse?
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optissima@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 223d
Next you're going tell me I need to stop buying my orangutan milk next /j
Save a cow, milk a transgirl (consentually), drink oat milk.
webadict@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 223d
I don't think this hits as hard as you want it to. "Natural" arguments are going to hit on their face because, well, animals eat other animals, and if you're only not drinking an animal's milk because it's not natural, then are you okay eating one? No, obviously not. I like the arguments from a corporate farming standpoint that treats animals unethically, because it is factually true and morally justifiable from most, if not all, viewpoints. You should incorporate that in more, it's hard to defend against, but don't use "it's natural" because that is not a good argument.
essell@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 223d
Not to mention what looks like a contradiction.
If it was only made because a cow was forced by humans to give birth, doesn't that mean it was made for humans?
Applesause@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 223d
By this logic you could say you empty your bladder for the purpose of avoiding the embarrasment of urinating on yourself in public, rather than the biological purpose of excreting waste products.
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 2 pts · 223d
no appeal to naturality was made.
Mandarbmax@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 223d
So respectfully, nearly all of these same points about the product being taken could just as easily apply to plants. The chilli pepper plant does not give us peppers willingly and is also exploited and this all comes at the cost of it reproducing.
SpicyWizard@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 222d
Does this chili pepper has a mind, feel fear and pain? Does this chili pepper cries for days because her children were taken to the the slaughterhouse?
Mandarbmax@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 222d
Exactly! That is the sort of stuff that would work better!
Greddan@feddit.org · 7 pts · 223d
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 223d
I was in at mother's milk, you don't need to convince me.
skozzii@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 223d
Ngl, I laughed.
Applesause@mander.xyz · -1 pts · 223d
gross
Pattylay@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 223d
Honk shoo