hey bud. im looking over my comments yesterday and i came in way too hot. im realizing i missed my happy pills that morning. while i agree with pretty much everything i said (i could have absolutely been more precise in my specific racial claims for instance- i painted with an over broad brush and i think it might be fair to say i was externalizing some latent racism, fair callout), i should have said it more gently and kindly. you deserved better. the anger i had, while perfectly valid, was extremely misplaced.
and im looking back over your comments and i think, we're not actually disagreeing for the most part. its perfectly compatible with my views to observe that the resistance movement in america is very much a part of the american culture. i dont think we actually seriously disagree, now i've had a chance to sleep on it. and come to think of it, by rejecting the premise of the song of freedom (while trite and reductive), i am in fact dismissing the real efforts by the named champions among others.
i think i just feel defeated. i look at all the lawlessness around me and feel hopeless. pedofascists control the fed, thugs control my state, my local council is corrupt and the police collect a paycheck for sitting in their cars talking to each other for hours in the mcdonalds parking lot, and i know good and goddamn well there's crimes going on. its all going to shit and i cant help but feel totally defeated. but i shouldnt have taken that out on you, my ally. its amazing how i can see (i think) pretty clearly, but my emotions fuck up my ability to cope with the information effectively.
in my view, israel is the one writing them off as such. i see myself as trying to look at the state of the world as clearly as I can, which involves yes looking clearly at the actual state of people and not what i wish they would be. to the specific challenge, if israel leaves them a dissolute, defeated mass (i frankly doubt they'll turn to alcohol or gambling, though disparate with the peoples of lebanon and syria seems much more likely), yes i'll observe that fact plainly and without regard to politeness. i dont agree that it is racist to observe that the remaining indigenous peoples of america disproportionately live in abject poverty and suffer extremely disproportionately from alcoholism and gambling addiction, among many other poverty- and desperation-related population effects. i think its racist to pretend otherwise, actually. edit: and further evidence of your ignorance
edit: i checked my figures, and i thank you for encouraging me to do so. i had to downgrade my statements from "overwhelmingly" to "disproportionately." still, 2x more likely to live in poverty (<23k/y) and 4x more likely to die from alcohol-related illnesses compared to the general population is an undeniable statistic. i dont say its determinitive, or that their genetic makeup causes it, i say its a statistical fact, and you can trace its roots to their ancestor's genocide.
you are pointing at the exception and stating it as the rule. for every freedom fighter you are very well justified in lauding, how many more were raped, lynched, disappeared, burned alive? how many never had a chance to live in the first place because of eugenics? and see where those movements are today. see the poverty and desperation of the black community after mlk and malcolm x. see the dissolution of the queer movement into kitschy consumerism after milk. see tradwives dominate young peoples' ideas of what feminism is. the civil rights movement, gay pride, feminism were not a fulfillment of the founder's original incomplete promise. they were a proud defiance of it. what natives? the dissolute, overwhelmingly alcoholic and gambling-addicted defeated mass of disparate peoples forced onto desert scrublands and deprived of all economic power? The genocide succeeded. The palestinians being genocided right now? they'll still have been genocided tomorrow if the genocide miraculously stops today. truly you are desperately ignorant. did the nazis not do a genocide in ww2 because some of their victims survived or escaped the camps?
the founding daddies very very much intended a slave republic of white male landed christian elites, which is why they wrote the constitution in such a way as to concentrate power in a single executive and set up lifetime supreme court justices that were not accountable to the people and why the congress is made up of an extra, antidemocratic senate whose purpose and effect is to impede the exact kind of progress we both agree is what america ought to be. the difference between us right now is that you're talking about a song of freedom like a fucking disney movie while a pedofascist rules totally unchecked as defacto king. whats next, will you tell me the performative no king protests are why donald "the john" trump isnt actually a king?
straight up, if you're defending this system still at this point in 2026, you're part of the problem. you do not get to simply declare the problem solved because the moral arc bends towards justice. it does not bend on its own and it is currently bending the other way.
fruity, i got no problem with you personally, but your take is seriously pig ignorant. do better.
edit: im leaving this up because most of what i said was true in my opinion, but changing my own vote to down because i was way too heated.
what an absolute load of horseshit. "song of freedom" tell that to the tens of millions of descendents of slaves in this country. tell that to the indigenous peoples who had to be 'removed' (genocided) out of the way. tell it to the people we 'freedomed' for oil last week. it could only unironically be stated by someone who enjoyed the luxury of privilege their entire life
if the besieging hordes picture does not refer to the common right wing trope of invading muslim hordes, it missed a damn good chance. your own choice of definition included "absurd, provocative, or offensive." what, in your view, was the "absurd, provocative, or offensive" nature of the post if it wasnt the direct comparison of morrocan migrants to hordes of invading orcs?
edit: orcs. i misunderstood the op's accusation of a pattern to mean that there was some other incident to point to. which apparently there is not.
edit2: telling that op insists on their post's not being racist while refusing to explain what otherwise makes it provocative, offensive, tasteless or whatever.
way better answer than 2
i dont think my government (or yours) gives half a fuck about anything other than keeping up the appearance of appeasing voters
but not enough of them to actually fight an extended conflict
hey bud. im looking over my comments yesterday and i came in way too hot. im realizing i missed my happy pills that morning. while i agree with pretty much everything i said (i could have absolutely been more precise in my specific racial claims for instance- i painted with an over broad brush and i think it might be fair to say i was externalizing some latent racism, fair callout), i should have said it more gently and kindly. you deserved better. the anger i had, while perfectly valid, was extremely misplaced.
and im looking back over your comments and i think, we're not actually disagreeing for the most part. its perfectly compatible with my views to observe that the resistance movement in america is very much a part of the american culture. i dont think we actually seriously disagree, now i've had a chance to sleep on it. and come to think of it, by rejecting the premise of the song of freedom (while trite and reductive), i am in fact dismissing the real efforts by the named champions among others.
i think i just feel defeated. i look at all the lawlessness around me and feel hopeless. pedofascists control the fed, thugs control my state, my local council is corrupt and the police collect a paycheck for sitting in their cars talking to each other for hours in the mcdonalds parking lot, and i know good and goddamn well there's crimes going on. its all going to shit and i cant help but feel totally defeated. but i shouldnt have taken that out on you, my ally. its amazing how i can see (i think) pretty clearly, but my emotions fuck up my ability to cope with the information effectively.
in my view, israel is the one writing them off as such. i see myself as trying to look at the state of the world as clearly as I can, which involves yes looking clearly at the actual state of people and not what i wish they would be. to the specific challenge, if israel leaves them a dissolute, defeated mass (i frankly doubt they'll turn to alcohol or gambling, though disparate with the peoples of lebanon and syria seems much more likely), yes i'll observe that fact plainly and without regard to politeness. i dont agree that it is racist to observe that the remaining indigenous peoples of america disproportionately live in abject poverty and suffer extremely disproportionately from alcoholism and gambling addiction, among many other poverty- and desperation-related population effects. i think its racist to pretend otherwise, actually. edit: and further evidence of your ignorance
edit: i checked my figures, and i thank you for encouraging me to do so. i had to downgrade my statements from "overwhelmingly" to "disproportionately." still, 2x more likely to live in poverty (<23k/y) and 4x more likely to die from alcohol-related illnesses compared to the general population is an undeniable statistic. i dont say its determinitive, or that their genetic makeup causes it, i say its a statistical fact, and you can trace its roots to their ancestor's genocide.
you are pointing at the exception and stating it as the rule. for every freedom fighter you are very well justified in lauding, how many more were raped, lynched, disappeared, burned alive? how many never had a chance to live in the first place because of eugenics? and see where those movements are today. see the poverty and desperation of the black community after mlk and malcolm x. see the dissolution of the queer movement into kitschy consumerism after milk. see tradwives dominate young peoples' ideas of what feminism is. the civil rights movement, gay pride, feminism were not a fulfillment of the founder's original incomplete promise. they were a proud defiance of it. what natives? the dissolute, overwhelmingly alcoholic and gambling-addicted defeated mass of disparate peoples forced onto desert scrublands and deprived of all economic power? The genocide succeeded. The palestinians being genocided right now? they'll still have been genocided tomorrow if the genocide miraculously stops today. truly you are desperately ignorant. did the nazis not do a genocide in ww2 because some of their victims survived or escaped the camps?
the founding daddies very very much intended a slave republic of white male landed christian elites, which is why they wrote the constitution in such a way as to concentrate power in a single executive and set up lifetime supreme court justices that were not accountable to the people and why the congress is made up of an extra, antidemocratic senate whose purpose and effect is to impede the exact kind of progress we both agree is what america ought to be. the difference between us right now is that you're talking about a song of freedom like a fucking disney movie while a pedofascist rules totally unchecked as defacto king. whats next, will you tell me the performative no king protests are why donald "the john" trump isnt actually a king?
straight up, if you're defending this system still at this point in 2026, you're part of the problem. you do not get to simply declare the problem solved because the moral arc bends towards justice. it does not bend on its own and it is currently bending the other way.
fruity, i got no problem with you personally, but your take is seriously pig ignorant. do better.
edit: im leaving this up because most of what i said was true in my opinion, but changing my own vote to down because i was way too heated.
what an absolute load of horseshit. "song of freedom" tell that to the tens of millions of descendents of slaves in this country. tell that to the indigenous peoples who had to be 'removed' (genocided) out of the way. tell it to the people we 'freedomed' for oil last week. it could only unironically be stated by someone who enjoyed the luxury of privilege their entire life
I dont think growth for growth's sake is a good thing.
to be perfectly honest i have some doubts on the matter too
promise?
sailors arent storm troopers. they're more like the black pointy helmet guys that fire the big fuckoff laser
thats a reasonable take. the ideal i spoke of doesn't necessarily manifest does it
statistically i'd say it's probably about a 50/50 mix
solar panels are dei
New Wave Amish
thats definitely not what just happened there
why would they not play the word game. its their favorite game, they play it all the time with the stock 'market.'
yeah but we use repository for that purpose now since store has been coopted
if the besieging hordes picture does not refer to the common right wing trope of invading muslim hordes, it missed a damn good chance. your own choice of definition included "absurd, provocative, or offensive." what, in your view, was the "absurd, provocative, or offensive" nature of the post if it wasnt the direct comparison of morrocan migrants to hordes of invading orcs?
edit: orcs. i misunderstood the op's accusation of a pattern to mean that there was some other incident to point to. which apparently there is not.
edit2: telling that op insists on their post's not being racist while refusing to explain what otherwise makes it provocative, offensive, tasteless or whatever.