Von der Leyen proposes to unlock €45 billion for farmers to secure support for Mercosur deal
https://www.euractiv.com/news/von-der-leyen-proposes-to-unlock-e45-billion-for-farmers-to-secure-support-for-mercosur-deal/
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biofaust@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 245d
I am getting on the verge of saying it... Damn I'll say it anyway:
Fuck EU farmers! They get 31% of the EU budget and basically live of that, don't create any high value jobs, and still manage to complain about a geopolitically crucial trade agreement.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 244d
At the same time, it's a fickle industry. Some years, your crops barely materialize. Then environmental regulations change and you need to make major investments to keep your farm running. Etc.
Since it's also where our food comes from, I'm not too angry about them getting a bunch of money.
biofaust@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 244d
We waste one third of production either on production site or along the supply chain and we give a lot of money for production that are unnecessary.
Believe me, I am Italian, we get 323 M€ for wine production and 60% of our export is still shitty Prosecco.
That is the kind of bullshit the sector relies on.
amzd@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 244d
Oh sweet summer child when they say “subsidies for farmers” they don’t mean farmers growing food, they mean animal slavers.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 244d
Those are especially hard hit by chance happenings though? Sometimes they have to kill all the animals because of a disease.
amzd@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 244d
They actually kill all the animals all the time
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 244d
Okay, economics aren't actually something you're interested in, only veganism. Which is fine, it's the morally correct choice, but I thought we were out here discussing the economic realities of being a farmer and why they may need government subsidies in general.
amzd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 243d
You’re right that my belief that killing is immoral means I automatically think killers are unsuitable recipients of government subsidies.
Niquarl@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 245d
Yeah looking forward to eating stuff that doesn't have the same standards as grown here.
People keep making fun of USA's unhealthy food but want that same shit imported here.
biofaust@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 244d
I would actually expect the opposite to happen. They would have to comply to our market requirements and in turn would uniform production to a higher standard since we would be buying at a premium.
Niquarl@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 243d
Except there's no way to know if they are following the EU's standards for what will be imported under this deal.
biofaust@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 243d
But we do check imports. There are recall bulletins every week in Italy.
kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 245d
If that money would go to create a next gen agriculture, it could be a great investment. I mean things like cellular agriculture, cultured meat, precision fermentation, generally more non-animal foods.
biofaust@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 244d
The people we are giving money to harshly counter most of those things, especially cultured meat and insect-based food.
TheTestHuman@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 244d
Those guys are just assholes that drive their own half million euro vehicles to demonstrate their poorness.
And while it might be getting harder the way they demand money will mainly benefit the already richest farmers so the situation of the worst will get worse.
LeeBeeG@piefed.social · 1 pts · 245d
And if AI comes and takes my job? I’ll just be jobless.. we all have to adapt, so do farmers. But indo understand we don’t want another big dependency and that we need to keep our own farms working