The big problem, I think, is that a relationship-oriented Europe has hit a transactional American administration. To Trump, you are only a friend if you are convenient. To Europeans, you don't throw away 80 years of alliance over a few poor decisions.
For Macron to say that the US is turning away from its European allies is like filing divorce papers. The Europeans will never consider the US an ally again. Like a recently divorced person, they are lost at sea trying to figure out what's next, but it's not going to be a return to the abusive relationship.
Europe has had a long history to look back on. US is still in that teenage hormonal phase and doesn't know what to do despite being spoiled for 80 years.
EU vs. Trump/Brexit/etc. has been a very different understanding of the world for years: Win-win vs. Zero-sum. We need to get rid of the latter and push for the better. Win-win should be the foundation of a united world.
The goons in power are turning on allies and everyone else except those loyal to the old, orange, rapist, felon unless they pledge loyalty or pay him off.
I'm pretty sure he has. And he's doing it again now, but you're giving him shit for it. So according to your logic no one should ever call it out, because once it makes headlines then people like you will come along saying "hE sHoUlD hAvE aLrEaDy DoNe ThAt!" as if the previous times don't count for anything.
France has been barely friends with the US for a long time. That the US has a flee up their bum because of France should be common knowledge by now. The French are unapologetically chauvinist and proud about their culture. They often make jokes about the lack of yank culture. They have been very loud about taxing US companies, they are one of the few European countries that try to have their own military equipment production, they spend inordinate amount of money removing US tech from their government and are loud and proud of their "la French tech".
Charles de Gaulle was pro-Europe and anti-USA long before Macron was even born. The very reason there are jokes about French losing wars is because of US propaganda - it flat out false. France has had a very successful military (to the horror of those who lost against them). They are actually one of the most successful militaries in the world. Yankees have regularly lost against the French in war games.
Just because you're finally aware the French disdain for seppos doesn't change reality.
if it means we won't send our personal data freely to the US anymore and will FINALLY start to tax all these american firms laundering their immense profits over here, ripping all of us off in the process - that's something I'll whole-heartedly welcome to happen.
Sounds about right. We're basically financial hostages or slaves here. We work, to have companies extract most value off our labor and be left fending for ourselves when the shit hits the fan in health or job loss, divorce, accident etc etc. There's no improvement. My dad made furniture and could barely afford a house. I'm white collar worker and now too can barely afford a house. There's no generational wealth accumulation.
So hopefully big companies extracting wealth from us and up in a big wealth super Nova. Ejecting globs of wealth left and right creating small spin off companies.
Yeah, they've been a long time, but only since Trump 2.0 made it crystal clear such that even politicians can now see it. So pls guys do something about it. You get a lot of taxpayer money, use it wisely ffs
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Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 66 pts · 209d
The US is also turning on their own people.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 209d
The US is turning against white people. It was already against everybody else.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 209d
Only MAGA white now.
manxu@piefed.social · 47 pts · 209d
The big problem, I think, is that a relationship-oriented Europe has hit a transactional American administration. To Trump, you are only a friend if you are convenient. To Europeans, you don't throw away 80 years of alliance over a few poor decisions.
For Macron to say that the US is turning away from its European allies is like filing divorce papers. The Europeans will never consider the US an ally again. Like a recently divorced person, they are lost at sea trying to figure out what's next, but it's not going to be a return to the abusive relationship.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 209d
Europe has had a long history to look back on. US is still in that teenage hormonal phase and doesn't know what to do despite being spoiled for 80 years.
casmael@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 209d
I do keep thinking about how the USA probably sees itself as ‘fortress Egypt’, but it’s kinda probably more like the Hittite empire idk*
*this involved and deeply flawed analogy was brought to you by squarespace do you or your buddies need a website or domain in that case you should
phneutral@feddit.org · 5 pts · 208d
EU vs. Trump/Brexit/etc. has been a very different understanding of the world for years: Win-win vs. Zero-sum. We need to get rid of the latter and push for the better. Win-win should be the foundation of a united world.
atro_city@fedia.io · 41 pts · 209d
Time for its allies to turn away from the US.
gigachad@piefed.social · 32 pts · 209d
Can't say this often enough: Politico is part of Axel Springer, one if the most evil right agitating news agencies you can find in Germany.
genau@europe.pub · 10 pts · 209d
It's garbage media. Whenever I know a thing or two about something they write about it is glaringly obvious that they pull it out of their ass.
casmael@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 209d
Fuck I forgot about this 🤦♂️
Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 4 pts · 209d
* Axel Springer
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 209d
Like suspension?
B0rax@feddit.org · 3 pts · 209d
You mean axle spring?
Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 2 pts · 209d
Yes, but the comparative form. 🤪
TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 209d
How do you block a source? Cause OP is like 10% of @europe
gigachad@piefed.social · 3 pts · 209d
I don't think it is natively possible via Lemmy, no idea about PieFed. But you can block websites in the Voyager client.
The other way is to block it via DNS. I have blocked it in my home network via Pihole and on my phone when I am not at home I use Rethink:DNS.
I use the following block list: https://github.com/autinerd/anti-axelspringer-hosts
TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 208d
Great, I use voyager, thanks!
YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 208d
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 209d
Macron is 8 years late with his comments. Helsinki 2018 revealed the orange mofo's intentions and goals.
rayyy@piefed.social · 8 pts · 209d
The goons in power are turning on allies and everyone else except those loyal to the old, orange, rapist, felon unless they pledge loyalty or pay him off.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 209d
Why did it take him so long to figure that out?
comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 48 pts · 209d
It didn’t, he is just saying it out loud now and the press is amplifying the message.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 209d
It's almost just as bad to wait so long to call it out.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 7 pts · 209d
So he shouldn't ever say anything?
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 209d
What, how did you get that out of what I wrote? He should have called out Trump's bullshit a long time ago.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 209d
I'm pretty sure he has. And he's doing it again now, but you're giving him shit for it. So according to your logic no one should ever call it out, because once it makes headlines then people like you will come along saying "hE sHoUlD hAvE aLrEaDy DoNe ThAt!" as if the previous times don't count for anything.
So might as well not make headlines, right?
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 3 pts · 209d
Yes everyone should have. But that doesn't mean no one should now
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 209d
Yes, better late than never, but still expect to get shit for only now growing a spine.
atro_city@fedia.io · 23 pts · 209d
France has been barely friends with the US for a long time. That the US has a flee up their bum because of France should be common knowledge by now. The French are unapologetically chauvinist and proud about their culture. They often make jokes about the lack of yank culture. They have been very loud about taxing US companies, they are one of the few European countries that try to have their own military equipment production, they spend inordinate amount of money removing US tech from their government and are loud and proud of their "la French tech".
Charles de Gaulle was pro-Europe and anti-USA long before Macron was even born. The very reason there are jokes about French losing wars is because of US propaganda - it flat out false. France has had a very successful military (to the horror of those who lost against them). They are actually one of the most successful militaries in the world. Yankees have regularly lost against the French in war games.
Just because you're finally aware the French disdain for seppos doesn't change reality.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 209d
Okay, so why did it take Macron so long to call the US out? You answered a question I didn't ask.
atro_city@fedia.io · 11 pts · 209d
I answered. He already figured it out long ago. Now's just the acceptable time to say it.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 209d
That's the problem. Waiting until it is "acceptable."
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 209d
Cause now is the time when the only moderately functional military in western Europe can make her own claim for hegemony.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 209d
Good lord man it's gone rabid and is shitting in our faces.
I mean ok yeah it's been doing it for a while, but now it's beyond overt.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 209d
This will affect everyone.... No more travel visas or maybe migration issues like passports not accepted everywhere we go for vacation.
gajustempus@feddit.org · 8 pts · 209d
if it means we won't send our personal data freely to the US anymore and will FINALLY start to tax all these american firms laundering their immense profits over here, ripping all of us off in the process - that's something I'll whole-heartedly welcome to happen.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 209d
Sounds about right. We're basically financial hostages or slaves here. We work, to have companies extract most value off our labor and be left fending for ourselves when the shit hits the fan in health or job loss, divorce, accident etc etc. There's no improvement. My dad made furniture and could barely afford a house. I'm white collar worker and now too can barely afford a house. There's no generational wealth accumulation.
So hopefully big companies extracting wealth from us and up in a big wealth super Nova. Ejecting globs of wealth left and right creating small spin off companies.
C1pher@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 209d
Oh you realized? Fucking finally, now do something. Something productive.
PracticalFail@feddit.org · 5 pts · 209d
Yeah, they've been a long time, but only since Trump 2.0 made it crystal clear such that even politicians can now see it. So pls guys do something about it. You get a lot of taxpayer money, use it wisely ffs
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 208d
Its so much like 205 and bush!
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 209d
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 209d
Lol this rings a bit hollow when I'm living comfortably with free healthcare and you're financing groceries while your country falls apart
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 209d
I'm not American