Same-sex sexual behavior observed in dozens of primate species, suggesting evolutionary origin
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/primates-same-sex-sexual-behavior-evolution-rcna252693
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/primates-same-sex-sexual-behavior-evolution-rcna252693
43 Comments
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 238d
Of course it's natural meaning it's evolutionary, what the fuck else do people imagine?
Is it something like: I'm pretty sure it's not natural, it's them liberals and their chem trails.
That's insane, people who believe anything remotely close to that are literally insane.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 238d
Religious fanaticism = insanity.
It should not be treated as normal in a civilized society.
Edit:
Sorry I misplaced the response, it was supposed to be to the u/thenoirwolfess comment.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 237d
As Richard Dawkins points out, the fanatics are also l victims, they've been indoctricinated all their life.
edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 237d
Yeah but all it takes to break the veil is literally any amount of critical thinking whatsoever.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 237d
I respect Richard Dawkins very much, and he is right to some degree. But there comes a point where the evidence is so clear, and the delusion so out of touch with reality, that we have to consider that people also have free will¹. The problem is that people are WILLINGLY staying within their delusions, and when that becomes the case, it is no different from insanity.
¹ Regarding free will this is a question I've studied very carefully, and my conclusion is clear, that we have free will within the limits of our understanding of reality and our physical abilities and requirements, and this free will does NOT require a god or a soul. The idea of a soul is completely made up nonsense with absolutely zero evidence or even indication of being true. Free will is possible within the restraints of a reality guided by physical laws, and has nothing to do with the uncertainty principles of quantum mechanics.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 238d
A satanic liberal communist conspiracy to destroy the sacred christian American Way of Life, and to sap and impurify their precious bodily fluids, obviously.
It's even making them fantasize about unnatural acts, that's how bad it is.
Closet? No, no, that's for the guns.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 238d
They imagine exactly what you believe. They tell themselves that it is a strictly human thing, which allows them to frame it as a choice--one that they can judge as morally wrong.
Sexuality, gender expression, etc.--all are dismissible through profound ignorance.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
And the idea that it is a choice can only come from bisexuals.
That should be pointed out EVERY fucking time someone makes that claim.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
I think you are attempting to inject far too much reason into bigotry. I think the only people who find it internally consistent are themselves.
Drusas@fedia.io · 1 pts · 238d
I'm not sure I follow.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 237d
Only for bisexuals is it a choice whether they are with a man or a woman.
Drusas@fedia.io · 3 pts · 236d
Ah, I gotcha. Thanks.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 237d
Conservatives:
Impact in this scenario: gay different. Gay scary. Only straight - no other. Gay wrong. Read study hard. Consider thoughts hard. Listen YouTube easy - confirm gay wrong, confirm gay scary. Make feel smart.
This is an overstatement of course, but yeah. Empathy and learning are hard, and you can pretty much count on people taking the easy path most of the time, so cons will always look for an easy out. Solutions are improved education and fact checks, rigorous reporting and broadcasting laws, and anything you can do to make things that are different less 'scary' to cons. As you will no doubt be thinking: none of that is what the current US govt and conservative leadership are doing, they are utterly captured by grifters who hijack their fear 24-7 to keep them in line with their causes and to keep them easily manipulated, and they attack any groups doing the opposite.
*source: https://archive.is/20240730020034/https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/conservative-and-liberal-brains-might-have-some-real-differences/
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 237d
Not so much, it is more a generalization, and the degree may vary, but at the core there is truth to this. These are people who refuse the facts of reality, which is why the saying that reality has a liberal bias is not just a joke. But the fact is that Republicans discard reality in favor of their delusions. While the sane adjust their views according to reality.
cygnus@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 238d
Yet another example of how reality has a liberal bias.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
Yes it's fucking scary how people in a cult can be so disconnected from reality and evidence.
It doesn't matter if the cult is religious or political, for both their cult fantasy is more important than reality!
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 236d
They're not insane.
They're the product of 7 decades of eroding education quality in the US, combined with a daily brainwash from fox news. Then add the American exceptionalism, the arrogance, and you have the Magas who believe this shit and are willing to
diekill for itBuffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 236d
So you are saying that because it's environmental it is not insane? And how do you arrive at that logic?
If people behave insane, because they hold and practice beliefs that are harmful to themselves, their family and society as a whole, they are literally insane, because they are delusional.
If a cult gets the (insane) idea to all jump off a 500 meter high cliff so they all die, it is still insane if they were indoctrinated to believe they would have eternal life by doing it through generations?
Whether they believe their delusions are true because of indoctrination or a psychosis is irrelevant when the result is the same.
Fanatic Christians are LITERALLY insane.
blackbearjesus27@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 238d
But wait, someone here was literally just telling me today that no one in his family is gay because he enforces good morals and that’s all you need since homosexuality isn’t scientifically real.
Lmao
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 238d
Are you suggesting chimps are moral?
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
Those are some moral poop flingers, let me tell ya.
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 238d
Interesting.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 238d
Drusas@fedia.io · 2 pts · 238d
I think it's saying copious sex regardless of the parties' genitalia.
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 237d
So, navy rules. Gotcha.
Drusas@fedia.io · 2 pts · 238d
Sounds a lot like how and why women and girls tend to have homosexual relationships in prison. (I specify gender because that's what I have more knowledge of.)
HisArmsOpen@crust.piefed.social · 10 pts · 237d
I know a few people whose heads will spin around and fall off if they read this. Have shared the link to a couple of work groups, for fun and my own entertainment
BlindFrog@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 237d
It's whose, btw
Sry for any derailment, I can delete my comment later
HisArmsOpen@crust.piefed.social · 3 pts · 236d
Good spot, thanks. No need to delete
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 237d
“It’s not natural!” -found in nature- “We aren’t animals!”
thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com · 6 pts · 238d
Religious majority countries like America and their bigots sure are slow
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 238d
yeah they were
wabafee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 237d
Lol evolution making us gay
IronBird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 237d
i'm too lazy to read more than the headline...this kinda seems like researchers missing the tree for the forest.
could it be that sex just feels good, and the majority of apes really don't have social relationships complex enough for gay/straight to have any meaning whatsoever?
a hole is a hole
this kinda seems like how researchers hide all the animal rape that goes on, because it's "icky" for humans (penguins and dolphins especially, it seems)
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 238d
Cue ”libruls are turning the monkeys gay with satanic 5G vaccines!!1!” headlines in 3, 2, 1...
BigEye@mgtowlemmy.org · -13 pts · 238d
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 238d
Being gay doesn't hurt anyone, unlike your example.
What a stupid fucking example.
BigEye@mgtowlemmy.org · -8 pts · 238d
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 238d
No what hurts society is religious zealots, bigots, rapists, murderers, and people like you.
nforminvasion@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 238d
Imagine being part of an incel instance! God, how embarrassing. Truly, this person knows no shame
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
They're not only a part of it.....they appear to help run it.
Final boss incel douchebag.
nforminvasion@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 238d
Hey... Give Musk some credit
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 238d
Please describe in detail how two men caring for each other harms society.
BigEye@mgtowlemmy.org · -6 pts · 238d
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 238d
They are family. Anyone in a loving caring supportive relationship is a family. Try again.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 237d
That doesn't nake any sense, assuming you mean a Christian hetro thing, ignoring that's recently new (in Homo sapien species terms).. How do two dudes being together impact some random heteros family ? It's not like being gay is a choice and it's a minority anyway and natural (as OP indicates)
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 238d
Tell everyone that you make pussies dryer than the fuckin Sahara without actually screaming it from the rooftops, why don't you.