that's the tragedy of Catalunya. on the civil war between Republican Catalunya and Fascist Spain, Catalunya had a minicivil war between the communists and anarchists.
they are a bit ideologically incompatible. both hate capitalism, so it makes sense that they are friends now, but one intendeds to replace capitalism with a proletariat state, and the other consideres states as intrinsically evil, regardless of capitalism.
I'll miss all my commie friends once the revolution comes 😔
I mean, you could just fuck off into the woods and visit when you want to, real commies won't hunt you. I think it's legit for people to want to live collectively under a state, and I think it's legit for people to want to be completely independent. Without the never ending appetite of capitalism, I think the two could coexist.
interesting, the revolution isn't here and yet you preemptively exiled me from my community.
I think you have an ideological misconception.
anarchy isn't individualism. it is the opposite of individual independence. it's based on mutual aid, we help each other in a collective without a state that can legally kidnap, imprison, kill you whenever it deems convenient and will lash out at anything that will threaten the state.
it's the needless power structures that are intrinsically evil, racism, capitalism, sexism, state/people.
It’s not inevitable, after all we want the same end result - a classless, stateless, moneyless society.
If it has truly gotten to the point where every last billionaire is gone, then I would argue that is pretty good evidence for the end of the hegemony of capital. I’m not sure that the material conditions of a world like that would require a dictatorship of the proletariat, and much more alignment with anarchists could be reached.
Of course, if we are talking about a more realistic scenario like a revolution in a single nation, then absolutely a central state is required to protect the revolution from reactionaries.
Chiapas did quite well, but they were too small to stand a chance, and Rojava is still going strong (as far as I'm aware, western media is intentionally hiding all news from Rojava), even though they are at war with a NATO state.
Someone once calculated that Smaug, the greedy evil dragon from the Hobbit, has horded gold worth roughly $70 billion. Not even in the top 20 of rich people today.
I think that Smaug deserved to get impaled with an arrow and bleed to death.
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Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 63 pts · 212d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 212d
we can agree that we should burn this mf down. we just disagree on what to build afterwards
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 211d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 211d
it's just sad, that the moment we hang the last billionaire, us commies and anarchist will immediately become enemies. 😞
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 211d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 211d
that's the tragedy of Catalunya. on the civil war between Republican Catalunya and Fascist Spain, Catalunya had a minicivil war between the communists and anarchists.
they are a bit ideologically incompatible. both hate capitalism, so it makes sense that they are friends now, but one intendeds to replace capitalism with a proletariat state, and the other consideres states as intrinsically evil, regardless of capitalism.
I'll miss all my commie friends once the revolution comes 😔
BeefandSquints@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 211d
I mean, you could just fuck off into the woods and visit when you want to, real commies won't hunt you. I think it's legit for people to want to live collectively under a state, and I think it's legit for people to want to be completely independent. Without the never ending appetite of capitalism, I think the two could coexist.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 211d
interesting, the revolution isn't here and yet you preemptively exiled me from my community.
I think you have an ideological misconception.
anarchy isn't individualism. it is the opposite of individual independence. it's based on mutual aid, we help each other in a collective without a state that can legally kidnap, imprison, kill you whenever it deems convenient and will lash out at anything that will threaten the state.
it's the needless power structures that are intrinsically evil, racism, capitalism, sexism, state/people.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 210d
It’s not inevitable, after all we want the same end result - a classless, stateless, moneyless society.
If it has truly gotten to the point where every last billionaire is gone, then I would argue that is pretty good evidence for the end of the hegemony of capital. I’m not sure that the material conditions of a world like that would require a dictatorship of the proletariat, and much more alignment with anarchists could be reached.
Of course, if we are talking about a more realistic scenario like a revolution in a single nation, then absolutely a central state is required to protect the revolution from reactionaries.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 210d
Chiapas did quite well, but they were too small to stand a chance, and Rojava is still going strong (as far as I'm aware, western media is intentionally hiding all news from Rojava), even though they are at war with a NATO state.
irelephant@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 190d
The situation for rojava isn't looking great right now.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 190d
yhea, but I'm willing to bet its for external reasons.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 211d
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 211d
Is this from a show or something? I've seen it before but always wondered.
Noja@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 211d
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7749142/
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 52 pts · 212d
There are two political ideologies inside you
And they're boys
They're both boys and they're kissing
:3
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 211d
They are also heated rivals ;)
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 211d
:3
Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 212d
Fun Lord of the Rings fact:
Someone once calculated that Smaug, the greedy evil dragon from the Hobbit, has horded gold worth roughly $70 billion. Not even in the top 20 of rich people today.
I think that Smaug deserved to get impaled with an arrow and bleed to death.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 211d
You are too kind
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 212d
Have you ever considered maybe its not the ring that's the problem but we just need better wielders?
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d
Oof
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 212d
We will win!
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 212d
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 212d
Boromir moment
CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 212d
Your description is how to make me upvote 101