It was very disheartening when I heard the gas mileage for the new mail trucks. The old ones got 8-9 mpg. The new ones were supposed to be a little over 14... Until they turn the AC on, and it apparently goes back down to 8.6mpg.
With most of the country getting hot enough to need ac so often... Ouch
The good news is that the old ones got 8-9 and didn't even have AC, so this is still an upgrade. Additionally the frame is designed to be upgradeable to an EV and slightly under half the the order is for EVs (which are really good at stop and go driving)
The real shame is that Workhorse was a company that made a very competitive and detailed bid for an all electric fleet and basically got snubbed by USPS for some defense contractor that isn't even delivering (90 units made as of Dec2025?). Classic corruption.
"As of 2021, USPS reported a baseline of 14.7 mpg for NGDVs powered by gasoline, which decreased to 8.6 mpg when operating onboard air conditioning—LLVs do not have air conditioning, though it is expected to be a standard feature for NGDVs."
That’s crazy. My car I can’t tell; I’d have to have a standard route without traffic to test the impact of AC it’s so small. That’s talking about almost halving the efficiency.
I had no idea AC could have that big of an impact until I was reading about those vehicles. I always figured it would be like 26mpg, turn on the AC, 25 or something
Man, that thing really is built like they put a 10 year old in a room with a bunch of cardboard boxes and duct tape and asked them to make a plane. Must have decent engines to overcome all of that drag.
There seems to be an abnormal growth on the side of the plane, should probably get that checked out. If anything it's definitely degrading the fuel efficiency.
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apftwb@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 201d
"My dad can beat your dad"
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 200d
It was very disheartening when I heard the gas mileage for the new mail trucks. The old ones got 8-9 mpg. The new ones were supposed to be a little over 14... Until they turn the AC on, and it apparently goes back down to 8.6mpg.
With most of the country getting hot enough to need ac so often... Ouch
apftwb@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 200d
The good news is that the old ones got 8-9 and didn't even have AC, so this is still an upgrade. Additionally the frame is designed to be upgradeable to an EV and slightly under half the the order is for EVs (which are really good at stop and go driving)
The real shame is that Workhorse was a company that made a very competitive and detailed bid for an all electric fleet and basically got snubbed by USPS for some defense contractor that isn't even delivering (90 units made as of Dec2025?). Classic corruption.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 200d
How the heck is the ac that much of a draw?
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 200d
No idea, they even self reported it below.
"As of 2021, USPS reported a baseline of 14.7 mpg for NGDVs powered by gasoline, which decreased to 8.6 mpg when operating onboard air conditioning—LLVs do not have air conditioning, though it is expected to be a standard feature for NGDVs."
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47820#%3A%7E%3Atext=As+of+2021%2C+USPS+reported%2Ca+standard+feature+for+NGDVs.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 200d
That’s crazy. My car I can’t tell; I’d have to have a standard route without traffic to test the impact of AC it’s so small. That’s talking about almost halving the efficiency.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 200d
I had no idea AC could have that big of an impact until I was reading about those vehicles. I always figured it would be like 26mpg, turn on the AC, 25 or something
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 200d
You, errm, 👉👈 you.. got any pics of the back end? 😳
Steve@startrek.website · 12 pts · 200d
Me Gusta
Steve@startrek.website · 9 pts · 200d
Another goofy looking bonus plane
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 200d
Damn, the cirrus vision catching strays.
andyburke@fedia.io · 5 pts · 200d
As a dull man, I flew one of these around the world completing over 90 XC flights - in MSFS.
I find both planes pictured very attractive. 👍
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 200d
Hey, 90 msfs flights is more than I have in it. More power to ya!
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 200d
It's called "pugley". What'd you expect?
redbrick@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 200d
Now...that's how you make a box aero dynamic...finish it off with a nipple nose.
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 200d
Man, that thing really is built like they put a 10 year old in a room with a bunch of cardboard boxes and duct tape and asked them to make a plane. Must have decent engines to overcome all of that drag.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 201d
Frumpy? She's beautiful. Thicc
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 200d
Giving some real vibes
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 200d
There seems to be an abnormal growth on the side of the plane, should probably get that checked out. If anything it's definitely degrading the fuel efficiency.
Steve@startrek.website · 4 pts · 200d
Do you mean the redacted children?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 200d
... This is like something I would build in KSP with FAR, as a joke.
I love it!
Also, reminds me (kinda) of Tacit Blue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Tacit_Blue
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 200d
Ah yes, the one that featured in the famous movie "Space Balls".
algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 199d
I'm not sure if I'd be able to stop myself from scratching out some of the letters to turn it into "Fugly"
7toed@midwest.social · 1 pts · 199d
Pugley, an apt name