Good, makes sense, as Scala is 'made in Europe' (mainly swiss and polish teams), and makes very robust software. Only it’s under-hyped.
Here you can try my interactive climate-system web-model written in latest Scala, which compiles three ways - to the web-app you see, to native code for fast calculations, and to a jvm desktop app (with 25 years history, originally java).
It powers lichess.org, who have made multiple blogposts about how happy they are with it.
Lichess is a FOSS chess server that somehow manages to compete with chess.com proprietary, distributed, milticloud kubernetes setup from a single VPS. According to them, scala helps.
AFAIK it's an excellent language let down by political in-fighting in the ecosystem and subsequent fragmentation of is otherwise 'standard' libraries. IMO this kills the language.
Kotlin offers most of what Scala does with a much more solid and supportive ecosystem, it's the obvious winner in the ecological niche of 'better JVM languages', for me.
I don't think that's a fair representation. Like for any community, you tend to hear the most about a vocal minority, and drama there was, indeed. That's not unique to Scala, that doesn't mean that a majority was engaged in it or was affected by it.
The point about fragmentation holds, though: Scala is a multi-paradigm language, so you tend to have communities assembling around core set of libraries and abstractions that fit their specific needs. It's not a bad thing from an engineering perspective (you get to pick the most adequate tool for the job), but it will be intimidating at first, and understandably ridiculous when coming from a different ecosystem that you've a choice of a dozen or so JSON deserializing libraries. https://index.scala-lang.org/ Is a great help, though.
Clojure in my opinion is the most beautiful and powerful language I have ever seen.
It has the full power of java ecosystem, amazing and simple concurrency, extremely simple syntax and semantics.
You literally start ascending to other dimensions after a while of writing clojure. It's like you are talking to your software.
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benjhm@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 210d
Good, makes sense, as Scala is 'made in Europe' (mainly swiss and polish teams), and makes very robust software. Only it’s under-hyped. Here you can try my interactive climate-system web-model written in latest Scala, which compiles three ways - to the web-app you see, to native code for fast calculations, and to a jvm desktop app (with 25 years history, originally java).
misk@piefed.social · 3 pts · 214d
I thought only the most miserable data engineers are using it.
moonpiedumplings@programming.dev · 8 pts · 214d
It powers lichess.org, who have made multiple blogposts about how happy they are with it.
Lichess is a FOSS chess server that somehow manages to compete with chess.com proprietary, distributed, milticloud kubernetes setup from a single VPS. According to them, scala helps.
devfuuu@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 214d
There's a lot of big applications and systems built with it. You just don't hear about it because it's not cool.
KRAW@linux.community · 3 pts · 214d
It's also the basis for a popular hardwaregeneration language, chisel. No clue why they chose it
bitcrafter@programming.dev · 3 pts · 214d
What makes it that bad?
Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 213d
AFAIK it's an excellent language let down by political in-fighting in the ecosystem and subsequent fragmentation of is otherwise 'standard' libraries. IMO this kills the language.
Kotlin offers most of what Scala does with a much more solid and supportive ecosystem, it's the obvious winner in the ecological niche of 'better JVM languages', for me.
sobchak@programming.dev · 4 pts · 213d
Been a while since I've used Scala, but I remember Scala being much more focused on functional programming than Kotlin.
u_tamtam@programming.dev · 2 pts · 209d
I don't think that's a fair representation. Like for any community, you tend to hear the most about a vocal minority, and drama there was, indeed. That's not unique to Scala, that doesn't mean that a majority was engaged in it or was affected by it.
The point about fragmentation holds, though: Scala is a multi-paradigm language, so you tend to have communities assembling around core set of libraries and abstractions that fit their specific needs. It's not a bad thing from an engineering perspective (you get to pick the most adequate tool for the job), but it will be intimidating at first, and understandably ridiculous when coming from a different ecosystem that you've a choice of a dozen or so JSON deserializing libraries. https://index.scala-lang.org/ Is a great help, though.
somegeek@programming.dev · 2 pts · 213d
Umm, Clojure joined the chat.
Clojure in my opinion is the most beautiful and powerful language I have ever seen.
It has the full power of java ecosystem, amazing and simple concurrency, extremely simple syntax and semantics. You literally start ascending to other dimensions after a while of writing clojure. It's like you are talking to your software.
bitcrafter@programming.dev · 1 pts · 213d
Thanks, that's really helpful!
misk@piefed.social · -3 pts · 213d
Scala is essentially Java so most of Java criticism applies.