c/map_enthusiasts · by garfaagel@sh.itjust.works · 3y

Annual hours worked per engaged person in Europe and in Asia. (Sorry for different color scales.)

Taken from here:

https://landgeist.com/2023/09/02/annual-working-hours-in-europe/

https://landgeist.com/2023/08/22/annual-working-hours-in-asia/

Some other countries if somebody is curious:

Brazil: 1708
Canada: 1689
Mexico: 2137
South Africa: 2191
USA: 1765

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odium@programming.dev · 61 pts · 3y (6 replies)

Japan and South Korea seem low, but keep in mind that they have a huge issue of people being expected to work overtime without documenting it.

WowSuchInternetz@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 3y

There is a large part time worker population in Japan. If you remove part timers the average is around 2000 hours for 2019

scytale@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 3y

First thing I noticed as well. Unreported overtime I guess.

StreetKid@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 3y (2 replies)

In South Korea you are not allowed to work more than 52 hours a week. Generally, you work approximately 40 hours a week.

clutch@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 3y

40 is what you are allowed to report, and doesn't count compulsory participation in dinners and karaoke/noraebangs

768@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3y

Are there strikes in KR regularly?

lasagna@programming.dev · 2 pts · 3y

I don't think this accounts for unpaid hours and the not at all voluntary socials in some countries such as Japan.

ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz · 38 pts · 3y (3 replies)

Wtf is this? Why are the colors not the same number for both maps?

WhiteRaven22@midwest.social · 11 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Probably to better highlight the local differences for both areas. The entire scale is significantly higher for the bottom map.

ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 3y

But the colours should reflect that. This map makes it seem like people in China and India work same hours like some European countries.

DavidGarcia@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 3y

yeah lol, they could have just picked new colors for the new bottom bins and it would be objectively better without tradeoffs

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 28 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Hardworking Germans and lazy Greeks, amiright!?!? /s

redballooon@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Same thing within Germany: the wealthier the person the less hours need to be spend working.

Successful_Try543@feddit.de · 1 pts · 2y

Also, in Germany, it is still common for married women with children to work half-days only.

gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de · 15 pts · 3y (1 reply)

I find it doesn't make sense to compare annual hours worked by employee.

Instead, only annual hours by person living in that region should be compared. Because otherwise, more part-time workers (meaning more working hours in total) dilute and decrease the average.

absurdAuroch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y

While that statistic would also be interesting, that would be dominated by completely different factors: pensioners, female employment, duration of education

AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Even if these numbers are correct they dont tell the whole story. Im moving from hungary to sweden and the stress and amountof work people do is a fraction of whats in hungary.

768@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3y

I wonder how work 'intensity' could be measured. Maybe intensity is only measurable through indirect means like prevalence of overworking-related diseases or a calculated number considering annual working hours and productivity, adjusting GDP per capita for relative productivity...

telllos@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3y

If you work with Danish people, good luck catching anyone after 3pm.

Good for them

boredtortoise@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 3y

Denmark doing it right

jordanlund@lemmy.one · 7 pts · 3y (2 replies)

40 hours a week x 50 weeks a year is 2,000 then whatever holidays on top of that. I can see 1765 being right for the US.

Banda@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3y

Seems low to me. There are 12 federally recognized holidays. So 2 weeks vacation plus 2 weeks and 2 days of holidays is still about 1900 hours. That’s if you work zero hours over overtime too.

neblem@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y

At least more salaried workers will be paid overtime with the new rules thus week in the US.

odium@programming.dev · 6 pts · 3y

Interesting that Russia went from one of the highest in Europe to one of the lowest in Asia.

Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 3y

I don't like that the colour scales are different ranges between the maps. Makes it look like China works less hours than Greece unless you look closely enough.

CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 3y (1 reply)

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redballooon@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 3y

Or we have a lot part time workers. That map doesn’t tell overly much.

verysoft@kbin.social · 4 pts · 3y

Horrible maps, arbitrary scales that arent even equivalent across maps.

bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 3y

Fuck me, I'm gonna go over 3k this year

Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz · -3 pts · 3y (3 replies)

Sorry not buying it. All of the European top countries are pulling these numbers out of their asses.

Edit: misunderstanding, I mean Russia, Poland and Creek.

drudoo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y (1 reply)