Why you should leave Gmail - from a German tech magazine

https://peertube.heise.de/videos/watch/c9ec12fb-2d0d-4894-a1ed-3c2d9273be8d

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 193d (13 replies)
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comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 55 pts · 193d (3 replies)

They also run their own peertube instance and publish their videos there. OP could have posted that link instead.

Here you go:

https://peertube.heise.de/w/qWbFwEfTW5TgheJ6v2CZNe

@OP - if you read this please add the peertube link to you post

lena@gregtech.eu · 8 pts · 193d

Wow that's really cool

Blaze@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 192d

Thank you very much, updated the link!

Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 193d
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Reznik@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 193d (1 reply)

Here is your peertube vid.

/edit: Yes, heise has a official peertube server and I think we should use it.

Blaze@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 192d

Thank you very much, updated the link!

RejZoR@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 193d (6 replies)

Well, you target where most people with GMail are... I've ditched GMail (and all other Google services) some decade ago and have been on ProtonMail and alike alternatives since. I'll never go back.

SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 193d

That's also true, you preach where the sinners are...

Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 192d (4 replies)
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RejZoR@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 192d (3 replies)

I mean, you and me not, but someone stuck in Google ecossstem, it is relevant for them.

Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 192d (2 replies)
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RejZoR@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 192d (1 reply)

Well, everyone needs a trigger. For me it was a friend who suddenly deleted his Facebook account ages ago. Which made me thinking, why am I even on here (Facebook)... It's when it started for me. Then Google did some shit that got leaked how they are manipulating things and all the creepy monitoring that came to light and that's when I started slowly phasing it all out.

First to go was Google Search. It wasn't even good, we just all used it. Move to DuckDuckGo was so easy because DDG was jjst so much better and without bullshit personalized searches that fucked everything up. Next big one was GMail that took the most work and effort since I had to move all accounts to new ProtonMail address. But now that it's done, it was worth the effort. Next to follow was actually moving away from Android phone to iPhone despite hating Apple before because they were just stupid company. Solely just to get away from whole Google thing. That transition made me ditch centralized service dependency. iPhone was just a vessel that powered all the 3rd party services, be it multimedia, cloud storage, emails, messaging, all of it is 3rd party (none was from Google or Apple) and none of it is interconnected in any way. I've since returned to Android phone (Samsung where I use their services over Google's if required) but following same principles. Really only Google thing I even use is GooglePlay store that you need for apps and its account that's required. I've even gone as far that my Location Services has been just entirely disabled for few years now. I only turn it on when using navigation which is rare. Oh and I filter all my devices with DNS level filtering using Hagezi Ultimate filter list which is the most aggressive of them all. Considering I don't even get any false positives or issues with it tells me all the tracking and spying crap doesn't even affect me as whole and is just quietly filtered in the background.

I've minimized my online footprint to absolute minimum now and one might thik my life is difficult having to deal with so much privacy things, but it really isn't. Transition took time and effort, but now that I have system in place it's zero effort. It just works and moving between platforms has never been easier since I don't depend on any. I can move from Android phone to iPhone in like 1-2 hours and I'd instantly migrate it all in that time since I just need to install those 3rd party apps and services and login to them. Hell, I can run any of those 3rd party services across Windows, Linux, Android and iPhone all at once since they support all of them. It's really so cool and gives me so much freedom to just choose anything at any time with minimal effort.

Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 192d
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notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 192d

Posteo is the sexy place to be.

RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 192d (3 replies)

We are all still cool with Proton though, right? That was where I was planning on heading.

cheat700000007@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 192d (2 replies)

They now have a history of complying with government data requests and the founder supports Republicans

rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social · 4 pts · 192d (1 reply)

Any sources on these claims?

unknowablenight@piefed.social · 2 pts · 189d

https://protos.com/protonmail-hands-info-to-government-but-says-its-not-google/

TL;DR: Proton complied with Spanish authorities and gave up all the information they had on a man (the recovery email.)

With this in mind, I would personally say Proton is safe. The fact that all they were capable of providing was the recovery email should show that Proton is trustworthy with their privacy.

This is only one case, if anyone has any others, please do share them.

Zephorah@discuss.online · 5 pts · 192d

It’s garbage, for starters. Microsoft is no better. Proton or Tuta is the way.

ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io · 4 pts · 192d (3 replies)

Just commenting based on the title since I am blocked from YT and also don’t speak German. (An English transcript would be useful)


Ditching Gmail is trivially easy. Boycotting gmail is where the interesting conversation is, because often you need to reach someone who uses gmail. You can do an MX lookup on the domain of the recipient’s email address, but that only works about 70% of the time. If they use an email firewall like Barracuda or a forwarding address, then there is no way to know where the email route ends.

If I cannot get confidence from an MX lookup, then the recipient is getting a fax or postal letter from me. Google could still end up in the loop, but as long as you don’t reveal an email address to the recipient, at least you remain in control over what Google collects and profits from.

Blaze@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 192d (2 replies)
unknowablenight@piefed.social · 1 pts · 189d

dankeschön!

ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io · 1 pts · 192d

Thanks. I noticed that but I would have to wait till I have a decent connection and then I wouldn’t understand the German anyway.

EverXIII@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 192d

I did. Very happy with Proton.

LeTak@feddit.org · 3 pts · 192d

We got Proton, Tutanota, Posteo and others like Mail.de So the see got plenty of fish

MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 192d

Leave gmail ASAP. The very next item in my feed, is about reddit, meta & google sharing data with ICE.

https://piefed.social/c/reddit/p/1782637/reddit-meta-and-google-voluntarily-gave-dhs-info-of-anti-ice-users-report-says

couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 192d

For anyone interested, I switched from Gmail to mailbox.org about a year ago and I've been happy with it.

I tried eclipso and didn't like it, fwiw.