Brussels has shifted into crisis mode, with emergency meetings piling up Saturday and Sunday.
As European leaders raced to respond to the rapidly escalating conflict in the Middle East on Saturday after the United States and Israel launched strikes against Iran, the crisis exposed fault lines inside Europe — and across the Atlantic.
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Brussels moved quickly to strike a cautious tone. EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas warned on X that the situation was “perilous,” while European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen stressed it was “of the utmost importance” to prevent further escalation. European Parliament President Roberta Metsola also urged restraint.
At the national level, however, Europe’s message was less unified.
62 Comments
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 182d
With them saying the bombing was a result of a breakdown in negotiations, it's hard not to see the rest of the article as complete propaganda. This was not a breakdown in negotiations.
breakfastmtn@piefed.ca · 16 pts · 182d
It says the attacks came after ("followed") stalled negotiations. They did.
Almost the entire article is direct quotes.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 38 pts · 182d
Those were not negotiations, they planned this shit in advance. If the choice is give us everything we want or we kill you tomorrow, it's not a negotiation. I hope they "negotiate" back at us the same way now.
breakfastmtn@piefed.ca · 23 pts · 182d
I'm not saying they were negotiating in good faith. Personally, I don't think they were. But they're still called 'negotiations' because they were taking to each other. That talking preceded the attacks. There have been articles for days about the talks not going anywhere.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 181d
Good faith negotiations simply weren't going to happen after Trump cancelled the deal that was in place an assassinated Iran's top general in his first term. This war was pretty much inevitable at that point.
Maybe if Harris were President and Trump were in jail trust could've been rebuilt and the war could've been avoided. Oops... I forgot I was on the "both sides are the same" website, nevermind LOL
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 3 pts · 181d
I mean Biden certainly didn't do much to (re)earn Iran's trust, and Israel did bomb Iran during his term to little to no US resistance.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 181d
Gonna need a source for your claim on an Israeli airstrike on Iran during Biden's term.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 181d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iran%E2%80%93Israel_conflict ???? I thought this was a pretty famous incident.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 182d
The negotiations stalled because Israel wanted them stalled and the orangeboi regime played ball.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
xenomor@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 182d
The only thing Europe is scrambling to figure out is how to reaffirm their servitude to the US. They are just so pathetic.
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 18 pts · 182d
Yep, it is embarrassing to see how much they want to polish that pedorapists knob instead of standing for the values the EU is supposed to mean.
Venezuela was already a deep low, but that shit now is even worse.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 182d
What would you have them do?
reddit_sux@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 182d
What they did to Russia, cause there is no difference in their actions.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 182d
I'm not explaining geopolitics 101
reddit_sux@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 182d
It's not geopolitics
Russia attacked whites whereas US attacked browns, only difference.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -10 pts · 182d
Please stop responding, I don't have time to explain the absolute basics of geopolitics to yet another American
Riverside@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 181d
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -5 pts · 181d
I’m not explaining geopolitics 101
reddit_sux@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 182d
Not an American
Xorg_Broke_Again@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 182d
Stop ALL trade with ameriKKKa, effective immediately.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 182d
this is worse than a youtube comment section
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 182d
Which Youtube comment section? OP is not a Youtube link.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -3 pts · 182d
:|
I've edited it to make it clearer, I'm saying the level of intelligence in the comments here is low
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 182d
I'm sure comments like this will inspire people. You're really good at this.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -1 pts · 182d
that's it, time to immediately halt all trade with Canada! 😅
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 182d
In what ways? What are you objecting to here?
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -2 pts · 182d
dude you're killing me
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 181d
If you are american, and haven't risen up in arms to topple the tyrant (despite that being one of the excuses for the 2nd) you have not earned the right to call Europe/Europeans anything. Let me remind you that in Europe, every so often, a president/premier is toppled by the people, through massive, constant movilization, general strikes, etc. Get your house in order. and then comment on others, if you wish.
xenomor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Funny, that despite all that popular action, Europe is still so servile the United States. I was just criticizing the leadership in Europe, but if things are really as democratic over there as you’re claiming, perhaps that derision should be directed to the European people.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 181d
Nowhere did I claim anything democratic (even though I could). I claim that when a head of government really fucks up, Europeans sometimes rise up to the challenge. Brave Americans seem to have lost that capacity since the 1700's. Also, that which you call servility, can be interpreted as "let the chest pounding gorilla pay for most of the expenses of our protection". Trump wasn't all that wrong about having European countries pay a bigger share, although for the US it was cost efficient to foot a larger part of the bill, to keep the first line of defense an ocean away.
But yeah, remove Turd. Then you will have earned the right to talk about others.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 181d
Every US/Israeli lie is still true, just some concern trolling over head of state assassinations and school bombings. "Urging restraint" while saying US/Israel is right on all points, not condemning them, is full moral support for the warmongering/demonism and any moral/legal opposition to their own future assassinations.
Xerxos@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 181d
I'm not suprised. Germany, for example, has a right wing party at the helm. And even if that were not the case, all the old politicians still have the mindset of vassal states deeply ingrained.
Riverside@reddthat.com · -1 pts · 181d
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 181d
Hear, hear!
t. European
Jaybird@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 181d
Riverside@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 181d
Jaybird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Jaybird@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 181d
Riverside@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 181d
Jaybird@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 181d
orioler25@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 181d
Totally, yeah dude, "invite the genocidal imperialists in to aid in the revolution" is the mentality of a person who has experienced any level of oppression. You've had a very hard life, I'm sure, typical Euro Lib who thinks having to do anything is adversity. You had to study for your exams? That's about the same as having your entire life bombed into oblivion, or at the very least you know as well as someone who did experience that because you watched a video.
Gaslighting language and ignorance, you really are a bad person.
Jaybird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Riverside@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 181d
Jaybird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 181d
Iranians can have complaints about their situation, without looking for a Zionist puppet to rule over them.
Jaybird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
orioler25@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 181d
Who the actual fuck do you think you are? Killing children isn't helping Iran and will never help Iran. What you just said was so fucking colonizer-brained it's unreal, please point out which school in your neighbourhood you'd want bombed if it meant the city finally implemented better public transit. You'd what, welcome a nuke in D.C. if it meant the fascists were gone? 9/11 was helping the Americans by attacking the capitalists? There would not be a fucking oppressive regime in Iran if the US did not overthrow their democratically elected government half a century ago. How the fuck are you talking about this like you know anything? Some people told you it was bad there and you wat, never even tried to learn why that happened?
Legality also does not fucking matter, laws are enforced on the vulnerable to the benefit of the powerful. How many invasions do you think the US has conducted legally, exactly?
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · -4 pts · 182d
Rot in hell fucking vassal states.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 181d
I wonder who's downvoting you. I live in a vassal state (and am a national of another) and I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that Daddy America, my country, and my now adoptive country have been engaged in nothing but evil, amoral, murderous power-grabbing pretty much forever.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 3 pts · 181d
I'd say that Lemmy is infested with Euronationalist libs, but the real problem is that the world has too many Euronationalist libs.
vga@sopuli.xyz · -7 pts · 182d
Why are we even slightly pro-Iran in EU? That doesn't make any sense. The values of their regime are the polar opposite of ours and they have been directly helping Russia against Ukraine. They have clearly chose to be our enemies.
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 182d
Its not about supporting Iran. Its about wholly rejecting the religious crusade of the most violent and bloodthirsty military powers out there.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 181d
"Religious" is debatable. I'm sure the proles shooting at and dropping bombs on the innocents have a little bit of "Deus Vult", crusader religious fervor but the leaders don't believe in anything (they'll pretend for the silly masses), they just want the bag.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 182d
“We don’t like your leadership” isn’t really causus belli for a military strike
Riverside@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 181d
ptu@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 181d
Iran has also supplied Russia with Shahed suicide drones since the invasion started
Riverside@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 181d
ptu@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 181d
I don’t see how that is relevant with supplying Russia with weapons agaist Ukraine. I just wanted to point out that their foreign policy is not really aligned with the EU. But to answer your question, I have personally met Iranians and their descendants who have fled because of the Islamic revolution, so there might be something worth critizising if you examine hard enough.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 5 pts · 181d
Iran is sanctioned as an extension of imperialist Western policy -> Iran doesn't get to trade with the wealthiest markets on Earth -> Iran has to trade with whoever it can -> Iran sells Shahed drones to Russia, pretty simple.
Not what they said.
Riverside@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 181d
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d