Today, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn) shared his reaction with reporters following the briefing: “I’m more convinced now that this is going to be open-ended and forever.”
He added, “This feels like a multitrillion-dollar open-ended conflict with a very confusing and constantly shifting set of goals. They clearly seem fine with hard-line elements being in control of the country, because they plan to permanently run air operations in order to chase [Iran’s] missile-making capability, drone-making capability, and nuclear capabilities.”
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Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 153d
So if Iran is showing off their underground bunkers full of drones, whats to stop them from moving manufacturing there. Why wouldn't it already be there? How do you destroy that?
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 12 pts · 153d
Supply chain. Drones are complicated pieces of equipment, they can't possibly be manufacturing all of the components locally.
During WWII the Allies brought the German tank corps to a halt by bombing ball bearing factories.
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 153d
Hasn't Iran been under embargo for decades now? They must produce most of their stuff locally since it would be hard for them to import it.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 153d
China and Russia both trade heavily with Iran and don't care about embargoes.
Also even if they could produce everything they need within the country, that doesn't mean it's practical to produce it all in one location. At some point you have to pull raw material out of the ground and refine it, and you probably can't get everything you need all from the same hole in the ground. You probably can't manufacture electronics very well next door to a mining and refining operation. There's going to be truck routes or train lines and logistics facilities somewhere.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 153d
I get that war interrupts supply chains, but you can't really bomb a supply chain. So what's the goal, some sort of hostile presence forever? Or are you saying that this might escalate into the US bombing China or Russia?
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 153d
Fuck yeah you can, hence my example of bombing ball bearing factories.
Train lines are also a classic bombing target. Fuel production/refining/storage/transport, any kind of logistics hub, shipyards, airstrips, warehouses... all things that are difficult to hide because there's always activity around them. Flatten them and the dependent supply chain grinds to a halt.
BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 153d
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 152d
The fact that you no longer require an act of congress to deploy troops was the biggest mistake America ever made.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 152d
I mean technically what he is doing is illegal, but so is 95% of everything this administration does.
As far as biggest mistakes America ever made, I would have to say:
The entire patriot act, which basically allows the government to legally ignore all of our rights in the name of protecting our safety (for instance during an unaccountable war started by the people who are keeping us safe.)
Citizens United, which declares faceless and unaccountable corporations with billions of dollars to burn are people too, and deserve the same consideration as individual citizens. More money to burn= more donations= "rights" and demands of unaccountable corporations are prioritized above the rights and demands of the American people.
So hypothetically, if corporations wanted to idk, overthrow the government or something..., they could: •Dump billions of dollars into propaganda and misinformation campaigns.
•Buy and install the majority of elected officials that make up a government
•Fully privatize the government via contracts the officials they have purchased then hand to their monopolies, so they profit from tax dollars and become the only option for public services (again with zero accountability).
•Sart global wars to capture resources, increase their profits, and spread their inverted totalitarianism around the globe in the name of spreading democracy and human rights. Aka Friendly fascism.
There was also some fucky shit going on with the CIA and mistake #1, (the Patriot Act), which I still don't understand, and honestly nobody seems to actually understand. Because of whatever the patriot act did, each president gets to pick a new leader for the CIA, in the name of having more accountability. Because we all know more executive power should help eliminate the deep state...🙃
So the guy currently leading the CIA and directing all of these wars, was selected by Trump and his corporate handlers, to jizz this neo manifest destiny shit around the globe with zero plan other than destabilize, profit, and successful purchase/capture the entire globe, or, kill us all by trying. Drill baby drill.
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 152d
It is actually legal for the president to deploy troops without congress declaring war. It is how America has fought every war since WW2. Presumably the supreme court could intervene and say "actually, this one wasn't a real emergency," but that's never happened.
As it happens, it's a lot easier for a president to deploy troops than for congress to say "actually don't deploy those troops," so it's functionally an unchecked power that we invented to deploy to Korea.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 152d
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/are-us-attacks-iran-legal-2026-03-04/
He's already admitted and at this point Congress seems fully aware, this is going to last beyond any scope that would be considered a strike vs war.
Also, why TF did he hit a fucking elementary school? I hate to use the term double tap because it's fucking stupid and this is not a video game, but that is the term they used to describe it. Just like they did to those fishermen they killed in Venezuela.
They're escalating, just like any serial killer.
WHAT DOES INTERNATIONAL LAW SAY?
It seems pretty clear what would happen if they (Trump, Netenyahu, MsB, and all the sycophants below them and handlers above them) ever faced a trial for their crimes. Which is why they're hoping starting WWIII will keep that from happening.
Pirat@lemmy.org · 0 pts · 152d
No. It's not legal. Congress may have passed a law or several laws saying it's legal but those laws contradict the constitution so are invalid. Only a constitutional amendment can override a constitutional edict. There has been no such amendment.
Same goes for tariffs.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 150d
citizens united is still the worst I think.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 152d
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