If they do remove it it's because you're being rude and antagonistic, and not every exchange is worth keeping (ex: if people promote conspiracy theories, bigotry, etc)
The comment was literally just racism against Indians, which isn't just bigoted, but also completely irrelevant to the conversation.
If you believe racism against random groups of people should be allowed in the platform you're either extremely ignorant or an asshole.
Or, if you understand why this kind of content would be removed, check the modlog next time instead of throwing accusations and inadvertently defending racists.
It is my understanding that the 72 virgin narrative is derived from several hadith which mention 72 houri. What exactly the houri are seems pretty complicated from an outsiders perspective.
According to LLMs there's no actual source for this
The concept of "72 virgins" for martyrs in Islam is widely considered unreliable by scholars and many Muslims, as it is not found in the Quran and is based on weak or contested hadith (narrations).
Look, I don't know shit. I'm just going by Wikipedia.
The Sunni hadith scholar Al-Tirmidhi quotes Muhammad as having said:
The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to Sanaa
Jamiʽ at-Tirmidhi
There are six things with Allah for the martyr. He is forgiven with the first flow of blood (he suffers), he is shown his place in Paradise, he is protected from punishment in the grave, secured from the greatest terror, the crown of dignity is placed upon his head—and its gems are better than the world and what is in it—he is married to seventy-two wives among the wide-eyed houris (Ar. اثْنَتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِينَ زَوْجَةً مِنَ الْحُورِ الْعِينِ) of Paradise, and he may intercede for seventy of his close relatives.
You're literally citing the "Islamophobic tropes" section and leaving out the line where it says it is deemed unreliable. You are either extremely stupid or extremely dishonest.
Imagine a Catholic orphanage being bombed and someone joking about how they'll be molested by priests in heaven or some shit. This isn't a joke in isolation, it's a joke downplaying real material harm, in this case the collective punishment of Iranians for daring to resist.
I can see a material difference between making a catholic joke at random and doing a Muslim joke after their country bomb the pope equivalent and family.
On Real Time with Bill Maher, Bill Maher criticized the rally, saying that while Stewart and Colbert meant well, the message of the rally promoted a false equivalency between the left and the right, noting, "the big mistake of modern media has been this notion of balance for balance's sake. That the Left is just as violent and cruel as the Right ... there's a difference between a mad man and a madman."
18 Comments
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 160d
I'm trying to decide if there is any material difference between making a Catholic pedophilia joke and the Muslim 42 virgins joke.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 160d
The entire 72 virgin narrative is made up orientalism to demonize Muslims as barbaric sex addicts.
Catholic church pedophelia coverups are a real thing.
three@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 160d
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 160d
No and also wrong religion.
RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 159d
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 159d
If they do remove it it's because you're being rude and antagonistic, and not every exchange is worth keeping (ex: if people promote conspiracy theories, bigotry, etc)
RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 159d
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 159d
The comment was literally just racism against Indians, which isn't just bigoted, but also completely irrelevant to the conversation.
If you believe racism against random groups of people should be allowed in the platform you're either extremely ignorant or an asshole.
Or, if you understand why this kind of content would be removed, check the modlog next time instead of throwing accusations and inadvertently defending racists.
sharkierox23@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 159d
Manmoth@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 159d
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 159d
It is my understanding that the 72 virgin narrative is derived from several hadith which mention 72 houri. What exactly the houri are seems pretty complicated from an outsiders perspective.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 159d
According to LLMs there's no actual source for this
And it links this page which seems to confirm that https://www.justislam.co.uk/does-the-quran-really-promise-islamic-martyrs-virgins-p-216.html
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 159d
Look, I don't know shit. I'm just going by Wikipedia.
The Sunni hadith scholar Al-Tirmidhi quotes Muhammad as having said:
Jamiʽ at-Tirmidhi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houri
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 159d
You're literally citing the "Islamophobic tropes" section and leaving out the line where it says it is deemed unreliable. You are either extremely stupid or extremely dishonest.
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 160d
Imagine a Catholic orphanage being bombed and someone joking about how they'll be molested by priests in heaven or some shit. This isn't a joke in isolation, it's a joke downplaying real material harm, in this case the collective punishment of Iranians for daring to resist.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 160d
I can see a material difference between making a catholic joke at random and doing a Muslim joke after their country bomb the pope equivalent and family.
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 160d
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 160d
That's because you refuse to learn from history.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 160d
I already noticed that you are a dumbass in your previous comment, there's no need to reaffirm it
ea6927d8@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 160d
One of those is very real and verifiable in the material world.
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 159d
So wouldn't that make the Catholic one worse?
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 160d
Add jokes about Jews and circumcision to the pile. None should be off limits.
varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -3 pts · 160d
davel@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 160d
I was done with this guy since The Rally to Restore Sanity, 15 years ago.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 159d