Nick Naylor: OK, let's say that you're defending chocolate, and I'm defending vanilla. Now if I were to say to you: 'Vanilla is the best flavor ice-cream', you'd say...
Joey Naylor: No, chocolate is.
Nick Naylor: Exactly, but you can't win with this argument... so, I'll ask you: so you think chocolate is the end all and the all of ice cream, do you?
Joey Naylor: It's the best ice cream, I wouldn't order any other.
Nick Naylor: Oh! So it's all chocolate for you is it?
Joey Naylor: Yes, chocolate is all I need.
Nick Naylor: Well, I need more than chocolate, and for that matter I need more than vanilla. I believe that we need freedom. And choice when it comes to our ice cream, and that Joey Naylor, that is the definition of liberty.
Joey Naylor: But that's not what we're talking about
Nick Naylor: Ah! But that's what I'm talking about.
Joey Naylor: ...but you didn't prove that vanilla was the best...
Nick Naylor: I didn't have to. I proved that you're wrong, and if you're wrong I'm right.
Joey Naylor: But you still didn't convince me
Nick Naylor: It's that… I'm not after you. I'm after them (all people around) >
13 Comments
linule@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 171d
But on public discussions, also remember that there can be undecided people watching / reading too.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 171d
Real "Thank You For Smoking" moment.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 171d
Holy fuck has it really been 20 years since this movie? I may need to give it a rewatch.
Rubisco@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 171d
It's been too long since last watching that film.
Best clip that could be quickly found on the topic (it was this or 30sec of Fandango ad at the end):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMWTSLeHIi8
elbiter@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 171d
That's basically the internet since I know it: explaining even the most obvious things to people who is actively refusing to understand them.
Zozano@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 171d
"You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into"
konomi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 171d
But it's so hard not to ahhhh
auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 171d
I can fix them
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 171d
Preach. This was my new year's resolution.
QuantumTickle@futurology.today · -5 pts · 167d
Same!
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 171d
The correct action is mocking them relentlessly
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 171d
Only works if you have a community on your side. Just coming in swinging can easily make you look like an asshole.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 171d
What?