Which faction you expect to be antagonist in some next Star Trek story?

You are waiting for more borg and romulans? Are you interested in a new enemy of the federation to appear or have another re-encounter like the cardassians?

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Kirk@startrek.website · 30 pts · 165d (4 replies)

I want the Borg to assimilate Khan from another timeline where he is a Gorn

JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Settle down Satan!

Kirk@startrek.website · 3 pts · 165d

You can't stop me Kurtzman 😈

RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 4 pts · 165d

GHAAAAAAAARNNNN!

GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 165d

a goon!

cattywampas@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 165d (5 replies)

I just want something new and original. No more nostalgia bait, no more member berries. Can you imagine if TNG never introduced the Borg and just stuck with Romulans? Even when they didn't nail it right away with the Ferengi, the franchise stuck with it and ended up giving us a pretty interesting culture with some of the best characters and stories in DS9.

No one wants to take risks anymore, makes me sad.

Kirk@startrek.website · 11 pts · 165d (3 replies)

You should check out SFA!

Maven@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 165d

I second this. SFA has a whole new villain faction and tackles star trek and the federation from an entirely new angle.

cattywampas@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 165d (1 reply)

I'm still planning on getting around to this, seen some clips of Paul Giamatti and he looks great as usual.

RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 1 pts · 165d

His character is great too.

scarabic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 164d

The Gorn in Strange New Worlds are very far from the Gorn in TOS. The animalistic violence and body horror make for a really interesting enemy and there is a great deal of psychology to the conflict too. People are scarred by past experiences… they live through some really horrific terror. This is a long way from fisticuffs with a dude in a rubber mask.

I’m not sure if you consider them just recycled nostalgia bait. But I’d say if something gets sufficiently re-imagined it is still ā€œsomething newā€ even if one can argue it isn’t ā€œoriginal.ā€

usernamefactory@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 165d (5 replies)

The Conspiracy aliens. We’ve been waiting… so long…..

Or the ones from Schisms.

StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website · 5 pts · 165d (1 reply)

Kirsten Beyer’s had a very creepy and innovative follow up to the Schisms aliens in her Treklit Voyager Full Circle sequence of novels.

Discovery borrowed one of her plots for the 4th season. I wouldn’t mind if they adapted some of their alien concepts for SFA.

usernamefactory@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 165d

I wish I could say I’d check it out, but my To Be Read pile is a little intimidating… maybe one day.

haverholm@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 165d (2 replies)

Was it in the S1 finale of Discovery we saw some "Conspiracy" crawlies sizzling on a flat-top grill at the Qo'nos marketplace? No wonder they were pissed off a 100+ years later.

usernamefactory@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 165d (1 reply)

I don’t think I caught that! I’ll have to keep my eyes out whenever I do a rewatch.

haverholm@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 164d

Could be my mistake. There is nothing on Memory Alpha about it.

Edit: According to IMDb, they're really Centaurian slugs, and it's not a flat-top:

The Centuarian Slugs that are cooking in the wok on Q'onos are featured in The Wrath of Khan (put in Chekhov's ear) and J.J.Abrams Star Trek (Down Pike's mouth by Nero).

jtrek@startrek.website · 10 pts · 165d

Something new. Something relatable. Not a one dimensional monster. Something that makes challenges the federation's ideals.

Like the classic meme, more courtroom battles and less spaceship battles.

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 165d

Harry Mudd

zabadoh@ani.social · 8 pts · 165d (3 replies)

How about something like The Culture?

Highly advanced multi-species civilization ruled by benevolent AIs?

I have a nagging feeling that something like it should have appeared in Trek at some point.

Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 165d

Ship the size of a continent slips out of the skein alongside a Federation starship and immediately runs a scan that siphons up all the art and science records onboard.

"Science officer, wtf?"

"Hey there! We are The Culture! We've been partying for the last few hundred cycles, and this month has been particularly wild. Everybody thinks y'all seem cool. Wanna get fucked up, go lava surfing, and chat about life? Just park that thing anywhere."

I'd love to watch that one.

alekwithak@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 165d (1 reply)

This is interesting, even without the benevolent AI, though that could be interesting as well. But what happens when The Federation runs into essentially another Federation? Do they combine and double their knowledge and territory or do they clash over differing ideals? There's no way humans were the first species to say "hey, let's work together," but if they ran into, say, space capitalists, we could wind up being the USSR of a new galactic Cold War.

StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website · 4 pts · 164d

This is another thought experiment that Kirsten Beyer took on in her Voyager Full Circle sequence in the Relaunch Treklit novelverse.

There were a lot of questions about whether their ethics were in fact shared or parallel with that of the Federation as well as whether they really were who they claimed to be on the surface.

Another Relaunch Treklit exploration involved a very different Breen society than Discovered unveiled. Instead of a single species, Breen turned out to be a multiplicity of species with different environmental requirements who all spent all their lives in environmental suits other than in their own homes. In the Relaunch universe, the Breen achieved species, race and gender equality by completely hiding their physiology and masking their voices.

StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website · 8 pts · 165d (2 replies)

How about more new antagonists?

I’d like to know more about the Vendari Ral and the remaining Emerald Chain in the 32nd century.

However, what I’d prefer over time is to see a build up to and slow unveiling of another unique antagonist as we got with the Borg.

cuchi@startrek.website · 2 pts · 165d (1 reply)

And how can be that new antagonist?

StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website · 6 pts · 165d

The ones in the image of the post are all old, rehashes from classic episodes.

When the Borg first appeared towards the end of TNG season one, all we saw was destroyed colonies. It was a mystery who or what was causing this.

Or, consider how we heard about the Romulans before first seeing them in TOS.

A slow revelation of a new and unexpected opponent, very different from the ones we’ve seen before, would be much more interesting than revisiting old ones repeatedly.

alekwithak@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 165d

The whale probe crashes into V'Ger and they head to the center of the universe where they free God^TM

IcedRaktajino@startrek.website · 5 pts · 165d

I'd like to see some of the novelverse villains. The Grigari come to mind.

They're kind of like the Borg but turned up to 11.

TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 165d (2 replies)

What them Breen do, huh?

cuchi@startrek.website · 2 pts · 165d (1 reply)

I have this in mind, That's why I ask about the Breen in other post, but to be honest, I think when more you know about the Breen, more lame it becomes and works more in a mysterious way than a strong antagonic faction.

Kirk@startrek.website · 3 pts · 165d

I enjoyed Discovery's Breen arc, but I agree that I enjoyed the concept of the Breen more as a mysterious fringe-species.

GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 165d (1 reply)

A very human looking alien!

fixmycode@feddit.cl · 2 pts · 164d

yeah, and make them binary gendered, last time we had a ternary gendered alien, we were sad.

mactan@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 165d

the borg, again

InevitableWaffles@midwest.social · 2 pts · 164d

The Zenkethi have been in both alpha and beta canon with wildly different interpretations. I'd like to see more of them even if it isnt major and they just decide what they should be.

Damage@feddit.it · 1 pts · 164d (1 reply)

Do we need antagonists?

cuchi@startrek.website · 1 pts · 164d

For adventure purposes, yes, all story need it. The other is, be trapped in another anomaly, but most of the time there is evil people doing bad stuff like controlling bodies, so yes.

gukleszl4hs48ughgxhr5xgd@fedia.io · 1 pts · 165d

Something new that's not shit would be great, but I wouldn't say no to more Borg tbh.

justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io · 1 pts · 165d

Pick one of the lesser baddies from Voyager.

Or redo Enterprise, taking a page from SNW.

MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 163d

M-M-M-MOOPSIES!!!