My insurance wouldn't pay for my colonoscopy (colon cancer runs in the family) due to me being under 49. How the fuck am I supposed to mitigate it if I'm not allowed to fund it? Yall MFs know that I can't pay you monthly premiums if you don't keep me alive, right?
My insurance wouldn’t pay for my colonoscopy (colon cancer runs in the family) due to me being under 49.
How long ago did you ask? The old guidance was at 50 years old, but with the guidance changing to 45 years old insurance should cover it if you're at least 45. I went through a similar you did under the old guidance. I can confirm that my insurance paid and I'm under 50. Note, the one you want is a "screening colonoscopy". These are covered under the ACA, I believe. If it is a "diagnostic colonoscopy" those cost more money. Its the exact same procedure for both.
Low iron did it for me. Likely due to frequent double red blood cell donation (only as frequent as regulations allow). Scope went quick and easy and nothing concerning to note.
Dude I'm in the same boat. I just turned 40. I was having regular check-ins due to a run in with cancer (Testicular, Stage 1, caught it, beat it, done) and it just so happened that my check-ins were a few days after I would give blood. They straight up ordered me to stop giving blood for a while 🤣
Still wound up with a colonoscopy because they wanted to check me out to make sure (clean as a whistle, and I had an upper endoscopy in the same visit)
That sounds like that would justify medical necessity. I would ask your doctor how they can get it approved, or your hospital's patient advocacy office.
Worst case, ask what happens if you want to do it with no insurance. Sometimes they can take the out-of-pocket cost way down.
Stage 3 colon cancer in my late 40s. Going through Chemo now. My oncologist thinks we can eradicate it so I'm hopeful. He also thinks it's due to the increase of Microplastics.
If you are in your 40s, go get a colonoscopy. The prep sucks but it's worth it.
The problem (at least in America) is that insurance will outright refuse to pay for preventative treatment until you’re old enough. It doesn’t matter if your doctor thinks it is necessary. The insurance’s doctor (who is paid directly by the insurance company, who didn’t actually look at your medical history at all, and who may or may not even exist) says it isn’t necessary, so they’ll refuse to pay. And that means that lots of the most vulnerable populations are entirely priced out of preventative treatment until they’re already in their 50’s (when insurance will start paying for it).
They are explaining why people in the US have barriers to doing the things that you are correct to recommend, not discouraging anyone from doing those things.
Experts aren’t yet sure why colorectal cancer has risen in younger people, but Siegel said it’s an example of the “birth cohort effect”. That people born after the 1950s face heightened risk “tells us that there was some exposure, some risk factor that was introduced in the middle of the 20th century that’s increasing our risk of this disease”, Siegel said, “and it’s increasing the risk more and more with every subsequent generation.”
The motherfuckers who did this all won't even know what they did to their future generations. That's what really fucking eats me. I want them to suffer but they can't.
The order of magnitude higher incidence of colon cancer in the west, comes from the western diet's higher intake of animal protein and fat, and lower intake of fibre:
Getting a diagnosis of early colon cancer isn't prevention. Prevention is eating a healthy diet with 60-120g of fibre per day from a whole-food plant-based diet, instead of the average 18g fibre per day from a typical western diet (video).
Here's a link to the paper. It has this amazing sentence in the conclusion: "As these generations age, the CRC burden in these cohorts will continue to swell like a tsunami moving through time".
Nicotene & pure-glutamine both slaughter nervous-system-of-the-gut.
Vaping's optimized for addiction: profit.
Apparently there are 2 different forms of nicotene, with 1 of them being "freebase" nicotene, which hits quicker, & there was someone, years ago, who discovered that cigarette-tobacco companies had been either breeding, or engineering, tobacco for higher freebase nicotene, so as to increase the addiction of it.
Which should change the category of their crime to drug-crime, shouldn't it?
Anyways, the cause is the problem, the symptom is only the symptom.
Never ignore the cause, just because establishment wants you to, for their incumbent's profits.
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SendMePhotos@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 176d
My insurance wouldn't pay for my colonoscopy (colon cancer runs in the family) due to me being under 49. How the fuck am I supposed to mitigate it if I'm not allowed to fund it? Yall MFs know that I can't pay you monthly premiums if you don't keep me alive, right?
FaygoRedPop@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 176d
If your doctor says you need one, insurance should be covering it.
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 9 pts · 176d
Ha. Hahaha. Haha. That's cute.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 176d
How long ago did you ask? The old guidance was at 50 years old, but with the guidance changing to 45 years old insurance should cover it if you're at least 45. I went through a similar you did under the old guidance. I can confirm that my insurance paid and I'm under 50. Note, the one you want is a "screening colonoscopy". These are covered under the ACA, I believe. If it is a "diagnostic colonoscopy" those cost more money. Its the exact same procedure for both.
bss03@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 176d
On my 45th, instead of a colonoscopy, my Dr. had me do the "Cologuard" stuff. Insurance covered that. I turn 46 this year.
Levophed@piefed.social · 5 pts · 176d
Hey just say you've had off and on rectal bleeding for a few months.
meco03211@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 176d
Low iron did it for me. Likely due to frequent double red blood cell donation (only as frequent as regulations allow). Scope went quick and easy and nothing concerning to note.
CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 176d
Dude I'm in the same boat. I just turned 40. I was having regular check-ins due to a run in with cancer (Testicular, Stage 1, caught it, beat it, done) and it just so happened that my check-ins were a few days after I would give blood. They straight up ordered me to stop giving blood for a while 🤣
Still wound up with a colonoscopy because they wanted to check me out to make sure (clean as a whistle, and I had an upper endoscopy in the same visit)
hammertime@lemmy.org · 4 pts · 176d
You can be alive with cancer. You’ll pay more.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 176d
That sounds like that would justify medical necessity. I would ask your doctor how they can get it approved, or your hospital's patient advocacy office.
Worst case, ask what happens if you want to do it with no insurance. Sometimes they can take the out-of-pocket cost way down.
flynnguy@programming.dev · 9 pts · 176d
Stage 3 colon cancer in my late 40s. Going through Chemo now. My oncologist thinks we can eradicate it so I'm hopeful. He also thinks it's due to the increase of Microplastics.
If you are in your 40s, go get a colonoscopy. The prep sucks but it's worth it.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 176d
I think even the reduced age recommendation (45) is too high. Like maybe 35 even. And re-testing every 5 years? A lot can happen in half of a decade.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 176d
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 176d
The problem (at least in America) is that insurance will outright refuse to pay for preventative treatment until you’re old enough. It doesn’t matter if your doctor thinks it is necessary. The insurance’s doctor (who is paid directly by the insurance company, who didn’t actually look at your medical history at all, and who may or may not even exist) says it isn’t necessary, so they’ll refuse to pay. And that means that lots of the most vulnerable populations are entirely priced out of preventative treatment until they’re already in their 50’s (when insurance will start paying for it).
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 176d
snooggums@piefed.world · 1 pts · 176d
They are explaining why people in the US have barriers to doing the things that you are correct to recommend, not discouraging anyone from doing those things.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 176d
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 176d
Because rates in absolute numbers have increased? Other cancers are more treatable?
shane@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 176d
Dionysus@leminal.space · 9 pts · 176d
The motherfuckers who did this all won't even know what they did to their future generations. That's what really fucking eats me. I want them to suffer but they can't.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 176d
Yeah but what awful thing are we currently doing that will cause issues for later generations? It's not like it was on purpose
krashmo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 176d
You know the obvious answer to your question right?
pageflight@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 176d
Fossil fuels & red meat!
grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one · 3 pts · 176d
extreme overuse of glyphosate (AKA Roundup) in agriculture!
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 176d
Don’t forget to buy your Roundup resistant seeds, brought to you by Roundup!
frongt@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 176d
Some did know. Most didn't care whether it did or not. Few thought it was confirmed to be safe.
wake@quokk.au · 1 pts · 176d
Microplastics?
GutterRat42@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 176d
All those protein bros need to eat more fiber (and regulate microplastics)
Jack@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 176d
The order of magnitude higher incidence of colon cancer in the west, comes from the western diet's higher intake of animal protein and fat, and lower intake of fibre:
O'Keefe SJ, Li JV, Lahti L, et al. Fat, fibre and cancer risk in African Americans and rural Africans. Nat Commun. 2015;6:6342, (video).
Getting a diagnosis of early colon cancer isn't prevention. Prevention is eating a healthy diet with 60-120g of fibre per day from a whole-food plant-based diet, instead of the average 18g fibre per day from a typical western diet (video).
AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 176d
Here's a link to the paper. It has this amazing sentence in the conclusion: "As these generations age, the CRC burden in these cohorts will continue to swell like a tsunami moving through time".
Paragone@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 176d
Gee..
I "wonder" if diet & vaping-nicotene have "anything" to do with that??
https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-second-brain-2
I read that when it 1st came out, long ago.
Nicotene & pure-glutamine both slaughter nervous-system-of-the-gut.
Vaping's optimized for addiction: profit.
Apparently there are 2 different forms of nicotene, with 1 of them being "freebase" nicotene, which hits quicker, & there was someone, years ago, who discovered that cigarette-tobacco companies had been either breeding, or engineering, tobacco for higher freebase nicotene, so as to increase the addiction of it.
Which should change the category of their crime to drug-crime, shouldn't it?
Anyways, the cause is the problem, the symptom is only the symptom.
Never ignore the cause, just because establishment wants you to, for their incumbent's profits.
Diet & nicotene.
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SupraMario@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 176d
Lol no just fucking no...way more people smoked back in the day. This has nothing to do with nicotine.
You know what changed? We're way fatter and less active now.
40+% of the usa is obese... obesity increases chances for cancers. Most obese people are also less active.