Europe could offer to help Trump on Iran — if he backs Ukraine, Finland’s Stubb suggests

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-help-donald-trump-iran-war-ukraine-finland-alexander-stubb/

Alexander Stubb, a golf buddy of the U.S. president, says it’s a “really good idea” to try to bargain with Trump, who wants Europe to help him open the Strait of Hormuz.

Donald Trump loves to make deals, and one of his closest confidants in Europe believes a pact might be within reach that could help solve both the Gulf oil crisis and the war in Ukraine in one go.

Finland’s President Alexander Stubb says he can see real potential in offering Trump what he wants: European military support to secure the Strait of Hormuz, the crucial oil shipping route that Iran has effectively blockaded in response to American and Israeli bombing.

Europe’s condition for providing such assistance? That the U.S. president delivers all the help Ukraine needs to reach an acceptable peace deal with Russia.

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TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca · 38 pts · 151d (1 reply)

No. Just... no.

Nothing Trump says or does is trustworthy. He will put his signature on a deal and then break the terms in under 24 hours. It's also highly unlikely he will contribute more resources to helping fight a war against his master when his own stupid war is going so poorly.

random_character_a@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 151d

Stubb still lives in a world where honor, dignity and law mattered and corruption and dirty quid pro quo deals were done in secret.

Hasn't woken up to the corporate shitshow the world is now.

HowRu68@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 151d

He did an interview In Chatham House. A journalist asked him this question and he responded it might be a good idea. The whole title is something that's been taken out of context . Here is the video, it comes at the very end.

3jane@piefed.ca · 15 pts · 151d

NATO is for defense.

Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 151d

Just remember not to fulfil your end of the deal until money, territory and/or weapons are confirmed to be in Ukraine's possession.

marcos@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 151d (2 replies)

it’s a “really good idea” to try to bargain with Trump

Lol! What rock has this guy been living under?

bonenode@piefed.social · 3 pts · 151d (1 reply)
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dan1101@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d

I don't know how they don't see the news and evidence we do, or do see it and think something completely different.

CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 151d (3 replies)

Or you could just help Ukraine directly?

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d (2 replies)

They keep getting blocked by Hungary

mcv@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 151d

Individual countries can help Ukraine. Just send in the troops to liberate then, and ignore Orban.

perestroika@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 151d

Let's hope that changes on April 13 (Hungarian general elections).

Brum@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 151d

Stubb knows Trump would never increase help for Ukraine. He also knows that the US has in the last few weeks burned through an ungodly amount of military stock that would have been useful to Ukraine. Even if Trump does a 180-degree on Ukraine, those interceptors are now gone.

This is more about providing EU with an explicit transactional reason (that Trump admin might understand) for refusing to get involved in the Iran debacle the US and Israel have gotten themselves into.

magnetosphere@fedia.io · 5 pts · 151d

This is such a bad idea that I’m surprised it didn’t originate from Trump himself

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 4 pts · 151d

Europe "Help us with Ukraine."

Trump "Yes."

Europe "We are helping you now with Iran. Can you help us with Ukraine?"

Trump "Sike. I am not going to help you."

Europe shocked Pikachu face

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 151d

He doesn't "like to make deals". He likes to bully others into giving him what he wants for nothing in return.

Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 151d

Doesn't trump just want warm bodies to blunt the massive American casualties that will be needed to open the strait? We already have all the equipment and ships, otherwise why are we spending $1 trillion a year on defense.

And if the Europeans are willing to send soldiers to their doom why not send them directly to Ukraine instead?