4 Linux init systems that almost replaced systemd (and why they failed)
https://www.howtogeek.com/4-linux-init-systems-that-almost-replaced-systemd-and-why-they-failed/
https://www.howtogeek.com/4-linux-init-systems-that-almost-replaced-systemd-and-why-they-failed/
13 Comments
Scoopta@programming.dev · 36 pts · 177d
Tl;Dr they all failed because they're init daemons and not entire system management daemons. Article gave a nice description of the different choices but I gave up reading after runit because the reason for failure always boiled down to
hunger@programming.dev · 14 pts · 177d
More than that: "its only an init daemon that does not even make use of Linux features". They all try to work on all posix systems while systemd is Linux-only and uses everything the kernel can offer to make things safer and more reliable.
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 9 pts · 177d
There's also the addendum to "s6" which is a bit more interesting, since it seems it found a viable niche outside of hobbyist distros. Somehow I had never heard about it before.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 177d
Not just that, but a good amount of software wouldn't work or even install because of a direct dependency on systemd.
mrbigmouth502@piefed.zip · 18 pts · 177d
I'm pissed that systemd has made a change that paves the way for age verification, and is unwilling to go back on it. The change they added may not do much on its own, but I worry about future consequences.
Since it's rare for large organizations and projects to go back on things like this, I'm considering moving my systems over to non-systemd distros. At the very least, I hope a fork without the userdb birthDate variable hits the AUR.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 177d
Honestly, it's kind of a big nothing burger. As long as the distro that you use doesn't actively enforce the age verification, it's just a field that is there and that is really inconsequential.
Ilumar@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 176d
That's the way I see it as well. Some distros are going to want to or be forced to comply with the laws, so offering the option seems sensible on systemd's part.
Systemd is not forcing distros that don't want to comply to use the field.
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 176d
Stop providing cover the surveillance setup. We’re heading into 1984.
org@lemmy.org · -7 pts · 176d
Slippery slope of compliance, magat
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 175d
I don't like the law, but I don't like the phrase "It's illegal to use Linux in the state of California" more. Systemd is not a political lobbying organization, they're a software organization and its their job to make legally compliant software.
We need to fight these laws, but being mad at Systemd isn't the solution since they aren't the culprit.
atomicStan@programming.dev · 13 pts · 177d
Surprised to see that Dinit wasn't even mentioned.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 177d
They'd have to have changed the article's title to "5..."
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 4 pts · 175d
Failed?