The bigger catch is that the VPN will be routed through Mozilla servers - a company that has not built a reputation for offering their own VPN service (their previous offer just resold Mullvad, which does have a good reputation)...
So, that's not a lot? I want to use vpn's, but don't know if I can trust any of the free ones. I hear many sell your information to data brokers. I use tor occassionally, but I get endless captchas on firefox afterwards from cloudflare when I do, and a lot of sites refuse to let you one when using tor.
Interestingly Brave just landed on the charts. Previously it was unrecorded or difficult to see. In the same time period, it now accounts for 1.37% of all desktop browser usage, 0.91% of all browsers.
That's not far off from Firefox (which enjoys 2.29% overall). That's nearly 40% the reach of Firefox across all browsers, almost 33% as successful on desktops alone.
I consider Vivaldi as my backup choice if there is ever something to happen to Firefox. I've tried it several times and it's fine, but I still just prefer Firefox. It just works better.
What annoys me is that Vivaldi entirely depends on Google's extensions store and that sucks. For that I actually like Opera more as they have their own that is not controlled by Google, but the browser has few really dumb issues and design choices, like why is fucking Google Search the only option in Start page?
So, yeah almost no matter what I try there's just always something dumb and I then return to Firefox.
+1 for Librewolf. I couldn’t load Google Earth but that was no surprise. They also don’t allow telling websites to use dark mode to prevent fingerprinting, which sounds neat after getting used to it.
Wait what? They don't allow websites to use dark mode to prevent fingerprinting? I had firefox warn me Lowes was asking for my biometrics back in 2020 or so. Wtf? Are these websites grabbing my iris scans and fingerprints without me knowing it?
Fingerprinting refers to a technology which can identify you via multiple attributes without explicitly logging in. Like if you use a niche browser with dark mode on, preferred language lithuanian, keyboard layout russian and screen resolution full hd. Combined those and many attributes like installed plugins can be used to identify, and its called fingerprinting.
It is and I wouldn’t use it. Librewolf for primary use and Waterfox for less rigid browsing seems to work okay for me. FF (w/UBO) for a third opinion if needed.
In my experience, Vivaldi buckles under a heavy load. It feels clunky, like the team tried to develop a browser within a browser*, and all the added features like an email client inside of it probably don't help.
* I'm pretty sure the whole UI is like an Electron app in there, which might explain the bizarre behavior that's usually handled decently by other forks: Tab handling, keyboard shortcuts, etc
25 Comments
eleijeep@piefed.social · 78 pts · 173d
max 50Gb is the catch
XLE@piefed.social · 37 pts · 173d
The bigger catch is that the VPN will be routed through Mozilla servers - a company that has not built a reputation for offering their own VPN service (their previous offer just resold Mullvad, which does have a good reputation)...
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 173d
So, that's not a lot? I want to use vpn's, but don't know if I can trust any of the free ones. I hear many sell your information to data brokers. I use tor occassionally, but I get endless captchas on firefox afterwards from cloudflare when I do, and a lot of sites refuse to let you one when using tor.
icerunner_origin@startrek.website · 30 pts · 173d
Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 173d
Great, now.i have to get a VPN to appear in Germany so that I can use the Firefox VPN
Korkki@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 173d
uses your saved credit card info to charge you in secret, of course.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 173d
OK, maybe better than nothing. Until they start selling more of your data lol.
XLE@piefed.social · 12 pts · 173d
Ouch.
signup@sh.itjust.works · -40 pts · 173d
brave is better
snowykitty@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 173d
I love crypto slop being enabled by default in my browser
XLE@piefed.social · 2 pts · 173d
Interestingly Brave just landed on the charts. Previously it was unrecorded or difficult to see. In the same time period, it now accounts for 1.37% of all desktop browser usage, 0.91% of all browsers.
That's not far off from Firefox (which enjoys 2.29% overall). That's nearly 40% the reach of Firefox across all browsers, almost 33% as successful on desktops alone.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 173d
So they know it's you all the traffic comes from?
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
More features I won't use!!
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 173d
Vivaldi has had a "light" proton VPN for a while.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 173d
And this is relevant how?
If I wanted Blink trash, I would not be using Firefox
RejZoR@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 173d
I consider Vivaldi as my backup choice if there is ever something to happen to Firefox. I've tried it several times and it's fine, but I still just prefer Firefox. It just works better.
What annoys me is that Vivaldi entirely depends on Google's extensions store and that sucks. For that I actually like Opera more as they have their own that is not controlled by Google, but the browser has few really dumb issues and design choices, like why is fucking Google Search the only option in Start page?
So, yeah almost no matter what I try there's just always something dumb and I then return to Firefox.
HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social · 9 pts · 173d
ptu@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 173d
+1 for Librewolf. I couldn’t load Google Earth but that was no surprise. They also don’t allow telling websites to use dark mode to prevent fingerprinting, which sounds neat after getting used to it.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 173d
Wait what? They don't allow websites to use dark mode to prevent fingerprinting? I had firefox warn me Lowes was asking for my biometrics back in 2020 or so. Wtf? Are these websites grabbing my iris scans and fingerprints without me knowing it?
ptu@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 173d
Fingerprinting refers to a technology which can identify you via multiple attributes without explicitly logging in. Like if you use a niche browser with dark mode on, preferred language lithuanian, keyboard layout russian and screen resolution full hd. Combined those and many attributes like installed plugins can be used to identify, and its called fingerprinting.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 173d
I'm testing Librewolf, but I think having a Chromium based plan B is a good idea.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 173d
Isn't opera chinese?
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
It is and I wouldn’t use it. Librewolf for primary use and Waterfox for less rigid browsing seems to work okay for me. FF (w/UBO) for a third opinion if needed.
XLE@piefed.social · 1 pts · 173d
In my experience, Vivaldi buckles under a heavy load. It feels clunky, like the team tried to develop a browser within a browser*, and all the added features like an email client inside of it probably don't help.
* I'm pretty sure the whole UI is like an Electron app in there, which might explain the bizarre behavior that's usually handled decently by other forks: Tab handling, keyboard shortcuts, etc
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 173d
Blink trash?
stoy@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 173d
Technically, no, but I don't want a world with just one browser engine.
I remember the dark days of IE6