cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/47572739
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/40834339
Just pick one - All the Fox functionality without bloatware
Librewolf - https://librewolf.net/
Waterfox - https://www.waterfox.com/
Zen Browser - https://zen-browser.app/
More browsers here - https://alternativeto.net/category/browsers/firefox-based/
You can also use this add to disable the
shitloadai function in many search engines in one gohttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/disable-ai/
GitHub page - https://github.com/jruns/disable-ai
You can find all the links on Mastodon<
17 Comments
XLE@piefed.social · 32 pts · 158d
Waterfox is the most conventional alternative. If you want to be up and running in as few steps as possible, this is the best choice.
Zen is the most unique. If you're looking for a cutting edge and somewhat experimental browser, this one's pretty great too.
LibreWolf is the most private. It's a halfway point between Firefox and Tor, but if you think it's settings are too extreme, you can dial them down on your own pretty easily (it's much easier than disenshittifying Firefox).
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 158d
Thanks for the rundown. I was putting in time to make Librewolf work with some sites it was struggling with (purely entertainment/WebGL, mind you). I gave up in the end. Might try Waterfox or Zen next time I feel like making an attempt. That said, I'd be happier with a plugin that simply disables the AI stuff in Firefox.
XLE@piefed.social · 4 pts · 158d
All I know from memory is you may need to disable LibreWolf's canvas obfuscation, hopefully Waterfox is better. I know DRM licensing can be difficult, depending on what entertainment you're trying to access.
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 158d
Yes, uploading images won’t work without allowing the canvas function. This bit me once or twice.
Edit: Images will appear grey/blue when uploaded.
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 158d
Thanks. I tried many of those methods, but for one particular site I was interested in they just weren't enough. I should probably still consider LibreWolf for serious stuff.
XLE@piefed.social · 2 pts · 157d
I think DRM content should work out of the box in WaterFox.
https://www.waterfox.com/support/drm-content/
LibreWolf and DRM seems really messy. I see threads about having to do multiple workarounds... LibreWolf is great, but it might be overkill for you. Waterfox is already very private and debloated.
Vincent@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 157d
Just toggle "Block AI enhancements" in the Firefox settings - way easier than a plugin, and safer too (not potentially dodgy third party).
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 157d
I'll do that, thank you very much - I appreciate it!
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 158d
I have multiple systems and installed WF, LW and FF (w/UO & disabled AI) on most of them. High use systems have all three. For browsing sessions wrt privacy, I use FF if I don’t care, WF if I care a little and still want some conveniences, and LW if I just want to be as“nobody” as I can be without whatever other extreme measures one might do. Have not tried Zen yet.
PixelatedCleric@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 158d
What do you guys use for mobile?
XLE@piefed.social · 9 pts · 158d
Edit: Waterfox is probably the best for average users
Ironfox, Fennec, and IceRaven are all mobile FF forks. I can't speak on the positives and negatives of them, unfortunately
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 158d
I've been on ironfox for a few months. My browsing is mainly "small web" sites and news sites. I've really liked it but rarely I need to dial down security on some e commerce sites. Banking sites and my local municipal bill pay work.
NightFantom@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 157d
Waterfox with ublock origin, working well
XLE@piefed.social · 3 pts · 157d
I second this recommendation. No sponsored stuff, no telemetry, no setup screens, the search engines include the fan-favorite Startpage but not the sponsored Perplexity. The only thing they could have done to make this easier for me would be to install uBO out of the box, but that's a super minor complaint.
Morphite88@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 158d
Ironfox or Cromite
IndigoGollum@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 158d
See also: https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware
peacefulpixel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 157d
XLE@piefed.social · 2 pts · 157d
I'd recommend a desktop browser for bookmark arrangement (and for experimenting with, and making sense of, how they work).
I believeyou can use Firefox Sync even with Waterfox (and most other forks), to put mobile bookmarks on your desktop Waterfox.Edit: Waterfox supports FF sync without any extra friction. Awesome.