This jives with my belief that street-legal cars should not be allowed to have any external or functional modifications. Basically, there is one version that was approved to be safe and street legal.
If you change the rims to be a different size, that alters several safety characteristics of the car, including its stability/balance and speedometer readings. If you add a spoiler, you're changing its maneuverability. Even adding things like custom bumpers will change the fuel efficiency. Changing the engine or exhaust can change performance characteristics.
Basically, if you want to customize the car, you can change the interior. If you want to change other things, fine, but there's no reason to let those things on public streets.
This would also have the advantage of giving "car guys" fewer things to be proud of, so presumably there would be fewer car guys going forward.
This sort of exists in Germany. Any modifications must undergo an inspection at the TÜV. If it's deemed unsafe, you have to get rid of the modification.
This may sound good, but Germany is one of the worst countries in the world regarding bureaucracy, only surpassed by Japan I believe. These things don't make life any easier.
This just sounds like you hate cars so much that you just want people who like cars to suffer out of pure spite. Car crashes are caused by drivers rather than modifications, don't let your feelings cloud your judgment, you'll just alienate people who would otherwise be supportive of more public transport and less car-centric infrastructure
Do you have to be so aggressive? Acting like this makes the movement look spiteful and vengeful, rather than actually working sensibly towards a better world.
Did you really see "fuck cars" and expect it to be polite to car people? One time, I told a car guy that I enjoyed taking public transit, and he aggressively told me that I "could pry his car keys out of his cold dead hands." I hadn't even said anything about him or anybody else. I didn't even know he was a car person. Car people are not going to cooperate and "work sensibly towards a better world." They don't give a shit about the world, and they don't give a shit about you. And this is a place where we can shit on those evil people.
I'm sure there are plenty of communities where you can waste time working sensibly with people who don't give a shit and will never change, and your message will surely resonate beautifully there. But here, we're in the "fuck cars" community, so don't try to tell me not to act that way in a place that is made for me to act that way.
So it's just a "five minutes hate" kind of thing for you, then? You just use this community as an outlet to vent and write revenge fantasy fanfic about how you wanna punish motorists?
It's pretty clear that you're trolling at this point, and if you don't think you're trolling, then you may want to reflect on the fact that your opinions are indistinguishable from trolling. I block trolls, so you're blocked.
I just asked the question because I was hoping you might reflect and come to some kind of realization about how unproductive and stupid your comments have been, but if you're literally incapable of the mildest criticism from an ally, I don't think there's much hope for that. All the best!
23 Comments
teft@piefed.social · 35 pts · 147d
When everything is hi-viz nothing is hi-viz.
bountygiver@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 147d
It still kind of does, the point is to make it stand out from the background
Stitch0815@feddit.org · 5 pts · 146d
Yeah this
Black car at night is less visible than yellow car at night.
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com · 22 pts · 147d
Yeah this hits close to home I worked at a place that painted everything safety yellow including the forktrucks zero contrast for anything lol
expatriado@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 147d
why are you wearing plain cloths Prickles?
for high visibility sir
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 147d
That's kind of the color of NYC's outer borough cabs (The ones that can only pick up fares outside lower Manhattan)
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 146d
All of our current cars ended up being silver. Sad
Steve@communick.news · 4 pts · 147d
Can you see me?
Which one am I?
BillyClark@piefed.social · -3 pts · 147d
This jives with my belief that street-legal cars should not be allowed to have any external or functional modifications. Basically, there is one version that was approved to be safe and street legal.
If you change the rims to be a different size, that alters several safety characteristics of the car, including its stability/balance and speedometer readings. If you add a spoiler, you're changing its maneuverability. Even adding things like custom bumpers will change the fuel efficiency. Changing the engine or exhaust can change performance characteristics.
Basically, if you want to customize the car, you can change the interior. If you want to change other things, fine, but there's no reason to let those things on public streets.
This would also have the advantage of giving "car guys" fewer things to be proud of, so presumably there would be fewer car guys going forward.
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf · 12 pts · 147d
This sort of exists in Germany. Any modifications must undergo an inspection at the TÜV. If it's deemed unsafe, you have to get rid of the modification.
This may sound good, but Germany is one of the worst countries in the world regarding bureaucracy, only surpassed by Japan I believe. These things don't make life any easier.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 0 pts · 147d
It sounds like it has no negative effects. If anyone deserves bureaucracy, it's car modders.
The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 147d
Maybe we should design cities around public transportation such as bus/train/plane, and use feet and bicycles for anything else.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 4 pts · 147d
Cars ought to be seen as a special case for people with mobility issues, not the norm for personal transportation.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 6 pts · 147d
Some modifications actually improve safety and efficiency, though.
Shayeta@feddit.org · 3 pts · 147d
Changing the interior can introduce visibility issues.
BillyClark@piefed.social · -5 pts · 147d
Don't be a shit. You know what I meant. Things like seat covers.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 1 pts · 146d
This just sounds like you hate cars so much that you just want people who like cars to suffer out of pure spite. Car crashes are caused by drivers rather than modifications, don't let your feelings cloud your judgment, you'll just alienate people who would otherwise be supportive of more public transport and less car-centric infrastructure
BillyClark@piefed.social · -2 pts · 146d
You're in a community called "fuck cars." Are you an idiot?
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 3 pts · 146d
Do you have to be so aggressive? Acting like this makes the movement look spiteful and vengeful, rather than actually working sensibly towards a better world.
BillyClark@piefed.social · -1 pts · 146d
Did you really see "fuck cars" and expect it to be polite to car people? One time, I told a car guy that I enjoyed taking public transit, and he aggressively told me that I "could pry his car keys out of his cold dead hands." I hadn't even said anything about him or anybody else. I didn't even know he was a car person. Car people are not going to cooperate and "work sensibly towards a better world." They don't give a shit about the world, and they don't give a shit about you. And this is a place where we can shit on those evil people.
I'm sure there are plenty of communities where you can waste time working sensibly with people who don't give a shit and will never change, and your message will surely resonate beautifully there. But here, we're in the "fuck cars" community, so don't try to tell me not to act that way in a place that is made for me to act that way.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 1 pts · 145d
So it's just a "five minutes hate" kind of thing for you, then? You just use this community as an outlet to vent and write revenge fantasy fanfic about how you wanna punish motorists?
BillyClark@piefed.social · 0 pts · 145d
It's pretty clear that you're trolling at this point, and if you don't think you're trolling, then you may want to reflect on the fact that your opinions are indistinguishable from trolling. I block trolls, so you're blocked.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 1 pts · 145d
I just asked the question because I was hoping you might reflect and come to some kind of realization about how unproductive and stupid your comments have been, but if you're literally incapable of the mildest criticism from an ally, I don't think there's much hope for that. All the best!