I'm not a "burn it all down" leftist.

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Jhex@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 151d (27 replies)

Can we feed the poor while the billionaires are still alive and in action against us?

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d (4 replies)

Yes

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 151d

Thank you.

Jhex@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 151d (2 replies)

Then why are you not doing it?... I mean you and @Canaconda have all the power right? or do you just post memes?

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d

Memes are a completely legitimate way to promote care for the vulnerable.

How many billionaires have you personally eaten? I guarantee it’s fewer than the people I’ve fed.

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 151d

I'm propagating 'forgotten' perennials like skirret and bambara nut that are high nutrient, hardy, drought resistant, and tolerate poor soil. So that my community can break free of the capitalist modern agriculture.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d (10 replies)

So you want to replace one flavour of authoritarianism with another? The difference being that you're in charge? Has definitely never been tried before. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 151d (6 replies)

Revolution is a revolving door unless we evolve.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d (5 replies)

Correct. And we won't evolve on time scales that are relevant to an individual or even our current historical time horizon. So we'll have to work with the kind of people we have.

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 151d (4 replies)

The social evolution is alive and well IMO. I come from a rather conservative background and while some of my community have dug their heels in, the vast majority are much more progressive than we were 20 years ago.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d (3 replies)

That's not evolution in a biological sense. I'm not saying there can be no societal progress. It's clearly happening and we need much more of it. But right now we're also looking in a time of regression of societal progress and that's by no means limited to the US.

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 151d (2 replies)

evolution is not restricted to the origin of the species context fyi. Communism is an evolution of social democracy (or is it democratic socialism... i can remember rn).

If we're going to change the power structure we need to socially evolve beyond the mentality that created the same power structure we're replacing.

Wakmrow@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 151d

You seem to not know what you're talking about. Usually I'm pretty cool with people like you trying to figure it out and trying to do good along the way.

Prescribing your ill conceived notion of change to everyone else is where I think you should shut the fuck up.

Jhex@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 151d (2 replies)

this is a very weak strawman... where did I say anything about me (or anyone) being in charge?

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 151d

You would know all about weak strawmen hosing all over your dry clothes.

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d

You’d damn well better have a plan for a new power structure if you plan to remove the current one, but you haven’t suggested any.

edit: And there’s no reason to wait to start protecting the vulnerable until anyone else is in charge—because you’re still going to need it after.

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 151d (10 replies)

Do you even have a plan for either? Or are you just being an edgelord?

edit: Me, I'm propagating 'forgotten' perennials like skirret and bambara nut that are high nutrient, hardy, drought resistant, and tolerate poor soil. So that my community can break free of the capitalist modern agriculture.

Jhex@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 151d (9 replies)

It's just a question. No more vague or abstract as your post.

If my goal is to dry myself, can I do that when I have a team of people actively hosing me down?

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 151d (2 replies)

"Just asking questions."

Well at least you're honest about having nothing to contribute to the conversation.

Jhex@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 151d (1 reply)

What did you contribute with your Kumbaya post?

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 151d

You've already missed the point. Further explanation from me isn't going to help.

I'm propagating 'forgotten' perennials like skirret and bambara nut that are high nutrient, hardy, drought resistant, and tolerate poor soil. So that my community can break free of the capitalist modern agriculture.

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d (5 replies)

If you have support from others to hold the umbrellas, yes.

Jhex@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 151d (4 replies)

So the billionaires raise the cost of umbrellas both making themselves richer while making it harder for you and your supporters to stay dry

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d (3 replies)

Are you against class solidarity and protecting the vulnerable just because it gets a little dirty when billionaires still exist?

Jhex@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 151d (2 replies)

How is opposing the billionaires, in defense/protection of the rest, NOT class solidarity?

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 151d

Because you're not opposing anyone. You're just asking questions.

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d

It’s not a sufficient solution, nor is it a higher priority than care for the vulnerable.