even debian dropped the attempt at using FreeBSD's kernel, it is just too alien to Linux, Hurd in the other hand pretty much tries as best as it can to be compatible with Linux while keeping it blob free
I can't speak for the Debian case since I didn't knew about it much but afaik on the Gentoo side it was because its hard dependency on Bashisms (and Bash as a whole) so it needed many hacks and stuff to get around of those and make it work on the BSDs.
That it didn't work because "it is just too alien to Linux" isn't quite true because it did work, it's just that it needed too much work to keep it going with Portage as it was (and is).
At that time systemd didn't even exist so no, it wasn't because of systemd.
If you want, you could always start it up yourself, put the kernel and any odd deps in a portage overlay, and see what happens. I for one welcome the project and would enthusiastically support its return.
Though I recommend switching to the hardenedBSD kernel instead. It would just feel... Right seeing that come home.
In theory, it should be fine with a non-systemd init. OpenRC is tradition in Gentoo after all, and OpenRC is from BSD.
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RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 174d
jdr@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 174d
We have Hurd the GNUs
pastermil@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 174d
hurdur
mmmm@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 174d
I so wish Gentoo/BSD was a thing once again.
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 174d
even debian dropped the attempt at using FreeBSD's kernel, it is just too alien to Linux, Hurd in the other hand pretty much tries as best as it can to be compatible with Linux while keeping it blob free
ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 174d
Too alien to Linux, or too alien to SystemD?
I can't be the only one who remembers those switches happening Very rapidly one after another for Debian.
mmmm@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 174d
I can't speak for the Debian case since I didn't knew about it much but afaik on the Gentoo side it was because its hard dependency on Bashisms (and Bash as a whole) so it needed many hacks and stuff to get around of those and make it work on the BSDs.
That it didn't work because "it is just too alien to Linux" isn't quite true because it did work, it's just that it needed too much work to keep it going with Portage as it was (and is).
At that time systemd didn't even exist so no, it wasn't because of systemd.
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 173d
couldn't it just use gnu userland?
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 0 pts · 174d
Wasn't
DebianDevuan a Debian without systemd?ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 174d
If you want, you could always start it up yourself, put the kernel and any odd deps in a portage overlay, and see what happens. I for one welcome the project and would enthusiastically support its return.
Though I recommend switching to the hardenedBSD kernel instead. It would just feel... Right seeing that come home.
In theory, it should be fine with a non-systemd init. OpenRC is tradition in Gentoo after all, and OpenRC is from BSD.
basiliscos2@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 174d
Did somebody actually tried it? On real hardware? How it is?