In your language, how do you describe butch and femme lesbians?

I ask as a butch lesbian (enby) myself. In Swedish, we have: truckflata or butchflata.

I suck at all 3 languages, but for femme I've just seen femmeflata.

I think it's just Butch and Femme in German, but I'm still kinda learning that.

Lesbians in German is lesben and in Swedish, it's "lesbiska" or "flator".

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rebeccapatriciastar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 144d (5 replies)

heritage language, norwegian, traktorlesbe is "butch". i am a butch would be "jeg er en traktorlesbe" or "jeg er ei traktorlesbe".

helix@feddit.org · 3 pts · 144d (4 replies)

traktorlesbe

Why a tractor?

rebeccapatriciastar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 143d (3 replies)

apparently referring to them wearing manly working clothes, like ones farmers/tractor riders would wear maybe?

rebeccapatriciastar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 143d (2 replies)

oops. just realized it;'s apparently an insult

uKale@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 143d (1 reply)

Some people use it proudly about themselves, but if somebody who doesn't love and respect you use it about you, it can be an insult.

rebeccapatriciastar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 143d

ohhhh ok, i get it now

gjoel@programming.dev · 3 pts · 143d

Only Danish expression I know is decades old and probably not adopted by the lesbian community (hardly flattering), but that is "beton lebbe", where beton means concrete, liking the women to very butch female construction workers, if I'm not mistaken.

SaneMartigan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d

In Australia I've heard Diesel Dykes and Lipstick Lesbians.

random_character_a@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d (2 replies)

I only know few derogatory terms in Finnish.

"Lepakko"

  • means bat
  • lesbian in general

"Rekkalesbo"

  • means "truck lesbian". Stereotype is slightly overweight woman who looks and dresses like a male truck driver or a lumberjack
  • butch lesbian
  • has some shorter forms
ttayh@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 143d (1 reply)

Funny, trucker lesbians in Brazil

Klarinette245@feddit.org · 1 pts · 140d

Olá!

Vandalismo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d (5 replies)

Butchs are "caminhoneiras" which mean "truck drivers", but i don't think there is a specific hegemonic term for femme lesbians

Klarinette245@feddit.org · 2 pts · 140d (4 replies)

Brasileiro? Olá! Estou aprendendo o português!

BeckyStjerne@nord.pub · 3 pts · 140d (1 reply)

Já falo português. Oi, galera

Klarinette245@feddit.org · 3 pts · 140d

Olááá, tudo bem??

Vandalismo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d (1 reply)

Que jeito bom de começar uma conversa, falando sobre caminhoneiras!

Klarinette245@feddit.org · 1 pts · 139d

Kkkkkkk né?

leftascenter@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 140d

France:

Butch is now seen as more polite in younger / woke(*) circles. Camionneuse (truck drivers) is old and derogatory even though still in use.

Femmes are fem, a younger word. NO old word AFAIK. I guess previous generations didn't care as much / were aroused.

Lesbiennes. Older / derogative term was "broutte minou" ~ kitty grazer (and sounds about as cringy in both languages, definitely the older generations were aroused).

(*) I mean that in its original / positive use.

Edit : for men mostly English words are used (gay, top/bottom, bear/cub....)

undrwater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d

Daughter calls herself dyke ("I'm a dyke on a bike!").

TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 1 pts · 143d (2 replies)

In Québécois French :

Butch : enby (I guess, but I’m not sure)

Lesbienne: lesbians

Not sure what is Femme so I will not pronounce myself.

Since with not that far from New York and Montreal is (was ?) a big sanctuary city we used mostly (American) English terms in vernacular French

CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 3 pts · 143d (1 reply)

Enby is a nonbinary person. At least in English.

N.B, get it?

TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 2 pts · 143d

Ha yes I’ve heard this one. Thanks for pointing my mistake

So enby : non-binaire, une personne non-binaire

Butch would be the same but we use (and prefer) lesbienne