This would either be opt-in or up to your device. I'd suspect any Pixel, Samsung or iPhone with Ai assisted accessibility features enabled to be likely targets.
My statement, in truth was more of a "water is wet", broad stroke. If some feature of your phone involves an Ai agent reading your screen, then I hate to say this, but I'm afraid an Ai agent may be reading your screen.
When it does, whether it does becomes irrelevant if it can, and I don't trust ifs. I directly tell my iPhone and average Android users on XMPP that they should know not to discuss much more than they would in a crowded mall, if that. You're at the mercy of your manufacturer for any illusion of privacy you believe you may have. In more truth, we all are, me on a Oneplus 11 on Lineage, just maybe slightly less so. No Ai, at least.
if you disable message previews in the app, those messages are never decrypted and put into the notification stack, and can’t be backed up in icloud. Which should also be disabled.
the security implications of turning on messages previews is pretty obvious, and they are also mentioned in the app.
if you have message previews popping up on your lock screen of your terrorism plans, then you’re a fucking idiot.
if you glamourize the massacre at waco texas, then you’re a fucking idiot (they really did).
if you spend months planning a bombing and ZERO minutes planning opsec, then you’re a fucking idiot.
either this whole thing is a fake terror plot manufactured by the government, or they’re fucking idiots… or maybe a nifty combination.
Signal messenger provides bulletproof end to end encryption, but all pipes leak at both ends.
FUD, btw.
enabling message previews was always a security vulnerability with signal.
letting iCloud back up your phone is a security vulnerability… signal can only control what goes on in their app, they could never control the rest of the phone.
….
have you read anything about this case? they were _ complete idiots_ cosplaying as revolutionaries, planning on making a bomb and becoming terrorists.
They were idiots with terrible opsec, and probably would’ve never gone further than talking shit and making one pipe bomb in the desert.
you can either learn from their lack of OpSec, or just scream fud and all electronics are bad, and sit alone writing on paper and refusing to use the internet, just like they want you to do.
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Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 71 pts · 124d
So the vulnerability here was the iphone, not the app.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 124d
Always has been.
Willoughby@piefed.world · 16 pts · 124d
What if I told you on some phones, an Ai agent is watching your every keystroke, making e2e entirely moot?
What if I told you that if anyone in the chatrooms you visit has one, then the entire chatroom is compromised, you included?
Food for thought.
traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 124d
Which ones? Do you have an article I can read more?
Willoughby@piefed.world · 3 pts · 124d
This would either be opt-in or up to your device. I'd suspect any Pixel, Samsung or iPhone with Ai assisted accessibility features enabled to be likely targets.
My statement, in truth was more of a "water is wet", broad stroke. If some feature of your phone involves an Ai agent reading your screen, then I hate to say this, but I'm afraid an Ai agent may be reading your screen.
When it does, whether it does becomes irrelevant if it can, and I don't trust ifs. I directly tell my iPhone and average Android users on XMPP that they should know not to discuss much more than they would in a crowded mall, if that. You're at the mercy of your manufacturer for any illusion of privacy you believe you may have. In more truth, we all are, me on a Oneplus 11 on Lineage, just maybe slightly less so. No Ai, at least.
gigachad@piefed.social · 6 pts · 124d
I read the researchers could retrieve the messages from a database that kept the push Notifications. I wonder how this behaves for Android.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 124d
yes
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 2 pts · 124d
Heck, android even suggests what to reply based on your typing history.
Dunno why @frongt@lemmy.zip “unworth reading⇩” you.
lumpyluggage@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 124d
Why are old notifications saved at all?
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 124d
And if they are saved, why can't I look at them?
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 124d
They're not saved for you. They're saved for the purposes of those who use your data for profit.
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 124d
you just need to turn off message previews in notifications then… and disable siri
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 123d
Doubt doing that has any effect on the database, it just hides the preview on a locked phone.
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 122d
doubt you have any idea how any of this works and just default to “all electronics are bad”!
even though you’re using a phone right now.
….
just lazy
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 122d
Do you know how Apple manages their databases? Do they use MySQL or Postgres?
I’m sure whatever they use doesn’t negate that a toggle switch is a simple 1 changing to a 0 and vice versa.
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 122d
if you disable message previews in the app, those messages are never decrypted and put into the notification stack, and can’t be backed up in icloud. Which should also be disabled.
the security implications of turning on messages previews is pretty obvious, and they are also mentioned in the app.
if you have message previews popping up on your lock screen of your terrorism plans, then you’re a fucking idiot.
if you glamourize the massacre at waco texas, then you’re a fucking idiot (they really did).
if you spend months planning a bombing and ZERO minutes planning opsec, then you’re a fucking idiot.
either this whole thing is a fake terror plot manufactured by the government, or they’re fucking idiots… or maybe a nifty combination.
Signal messenger provides bulletproof end to end encryption, but all pipes leak at both ends.
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 122d
FUD, btw.
enabling message previews was always a security vulnerability with signal.
letting iCloud back up your phone is a security vulnerability… signal can only control what goes on in their app, they could never control the rest of the phone.
….
have you read anything about this case? they were _ complete idiots_ cosplaying as revolutionaries, planning on making a bomb and becoming terrorists.
They were idiots with terrible opsec, and probably would’ve never gone further than talking shit and making one pipe bomb in the desert.
you can either learn from their lack of OpSec, or just scream fud and all electronics are bad, and sit alone writing on paper and refusing to use the internet, just like they want you to do.
pigup@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
and put the phone in a hydraulic press.
x550@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 123d
Anyone know if this retained on android notifications ?
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al · 1 pts · 122d
Notification history exists on Android. It can be disabled though.