10 petabytes of sensitive data stolen from China's National Supercomputing Center, hackers claim — daring heist would be largest ever China hack, covering 6,000 clients across science, defense, and be

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/10-petabytes-of-sensitive-data-stolen-from-chinas-national-supercomputing-center-hackers-claim-daring-heist-would-be-largest-ever-china-hack-covering-6-000-clients-across-science-defense-and-beyond

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XLE@piefed.social · 74 pts · 125d

Unsurprisingly, centralizing your data between the private and public sector means everything is vulnerable at a centralized location.

The exposed materials include files labeled 'secret' in Chinese

In Chinese?!

whoa.

gressen@lemmy.zip · 37 pts · 125d (18 replies)

Where do you even store 10 PB of data?

xSikes@feddit.online · 27 pts · 125d

On your fidget spinner usb drive from a trade show

mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 20 pts · 125d (3 replies)

Not to mention the logistics of transferring that much data alone. You need a high enough network speed to snag it all before being caught.

Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 125d (1 reply)
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treadful@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 125d

Sneakernet? More like forktrucknet

PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 1 pts · 125d

You could probably spread the exfil across a botnet of some kind, since I imagine the data will survive being chunked.

nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 125d (3 replies)

Minivan full of usb keys. Probably still the fastest data transfer method too.

sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 125d (1 reply)

If you were using 1tb micro SD cards you could fit them in a briefcase or two. It'd only cost $2 million at retail value of $200/card.

AzuraTheSpellkissed@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 125d

$200/card? What are those, legitimate western numbers?/s You can find "2TB" SD cards on AliExpress/etc for $3. Increasing the capacity to 1PT shouldn't be much more than a minor change in the firmware.

ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 124d

"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a uhaul truck"

ripcord@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 125d (1 reply)

That may be uncompressed (and text and similar data compress really well).

Otherwise my bigger question is how did they transfer 10PB with no one noticing

victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d

how did they transfer 10PB with no one noticing

Siphoning. Really slowly.

Tricked it out. Naw mean?

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 125d (1 reply)

Hackers must have insane S3 bills

slowtrain33@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 125d

Just imagine the number of PUTs. I’ll bet it was mostly 100kb log files too. Them hackers gonna wish they never rsync’d that one. lmao

5PACEBAR@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 125d

They're selling those on AliExpress

silverneedle@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 125d

Tapes

IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 125d (1 reply)

I'm guessing that they wouldn't actually store that amount of data. Probably processing it on the fly and discarding a majority of it.

partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 124d

Maybe… or they could run up a credit card and bounce on the bill. The guy wasn’t asking for a lot of money, which indicates to me that they either want finances fast or they want to wash their hands fast.

Kissaki@feddit.org · 2 pts · 124d

Maybe on one of those drives that fake their size and at some point begin overwriting previous data. Metadata still there, but content of earlier files completely corrupt. /s

Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 16 pts · 125d (2 replies)

How do you carry away petabytes?

GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 125d

Just compress it with PiedPiper

k0e3@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 122d

They paid for WinZip

umbrella@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 125d (1 reply)
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partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 124d

It’s a supercomputer center, so I imagine large data transfer is normal in the environment. They could have piggybacked on existing high-throughput data workflows, or somehow blended into expected large transfers. Data can be exfiltrated over weeks or months, across multiple endpoints or accounts, … and compression could have happened prior to transfer (meaning the transfer may have been smaller than 10PB). Monitoring could have been inadequate or bypassed.

I imagine the puny change could be indicative of wanting a fast sale. Possibly, if they decided to store the data on cloud drives via a credit line. They might want a sale before the bill comes.

Edit: yup

According to the alleged attacker, they gained access through a compromised VPN domain, then deployed a botnet to extract data. Instead of transferring data in bulk, the attacker distributed the exfiltration across multiple systems and moved 'smaller' amounts over about six months to avoid detection. Such a method relies more on exploiting system architecture than on advanced hacking techniques, which in part helped the perpetrator to avoid detection.

in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 7 pts · 125d

Curious to see if another LeakBase will pop up around this. I'm already hearing rumors that a lot of it was AI training data but that's unfounded squiddy speak on social media.

Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 124d

Did it supposed to stop “be”? Or did OP hit the enter too soon?

thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 125d (4 replies)

you'd need a data center just to hold that much information! it's not like your using cloud storage for this, this is an expensive payload

bright@piefed.social · 17 pts · 125d (1 reply)

A petabyte is 1000 terabytes. There are commercial hard drives that are over 30 tb. So 33 of these drives hold 1 pb. Times ten makes 330 hard drives to hold 10 pb. All of those drives together would take up just one third of a single full height server rack like this.

https://www.quantumtechnologyequipment.net/products/s6llst3137

So not only wouldn't it need a whole data center, in fact it wouldn't even need a whole server room, and actually wouldn't even need a whole server closet!

I calculated this all out only because I'm procrastinating😆

silverneedle@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 125d

Tape storage is probably even cheaper and more space efficient

IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 125d (1 reply)

With modern high capacity drives, it's possible to have that storage in a single rack. If would probably be about $500,000 worth of drives though.

ryannathans@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 125d

$242k AUD if using the bare minimum number of HP 14TB enterprise drives (cheapest I can currently find)

Throw in some redundancy and call it $250k AUD or $179k USD