I wonder if the people defending the damn bird would have reacted differently if they had watched it pull a 30 year old Koi out of their pond and flew away with it.
I knew that fish for more than half my life. My kids grew up feeding and watching them.
There is always more to a story, and it's good to remember that first impressions of a situation are often only that.
Bro but its crazy to just pick the animal you specifically have a connection to and say "there's more to the story... But not any more to it than that!". What if I had grown up watching that heron? What if I have twice as many kids as you and they all love the heron? Does that tip the scale so that now we should be angry at the fish for trying to kill my heron by starvation? Little fish bastards, why can't they just my heron be?
Of course the real truth is that nature is at odds with itself and there's no way around that. If you can say "yeah I just like the fish cos that's what I like, I don't care that it doesn't make sense", then that's respectable enough. You're just out for your own well-being, just like the fish and the heron both. But getting so heated at the heron for trying to be alive, which is also what your fish try to do, and then extending your hatred to all heronkind is just hilarious
And people say studying philosophy is irrelevant for every day life.
here we were just laughing about a bird / venting about a predatory species, and suddenly we are talking ethics and the question if moral(?) applies to animals when discussed by humans.
You are obviously right, in that i place my "pets" over a random predator. but then again, is the comparison truely equal if the heron is your "pet"?
the fish seem to me pretty passive in all this, except in their inability to not attract things that want to eat them.
Is good and bad or right and wrong even applicable to animals in nature? and does a fish in a domesticated pond even fall under "living in nature"?
would that even make a difference?
Or is the fault my own for not making sure the fish are protected?
Getting back to the beginning, do i have an obligation to moderate my language in any way?
Is it mean to wish for the heron to starve?
Could maybe a case be made that it is a request for poetic justice that one heron lives and a fish dies, and another one starves and a fish lives.
38 Comments
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 111 pts · 127d
Walk on it. Start a heron religion.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 127d
Oop, started a heroin religion instead.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 127d
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 126d
If a woman got on the trampoline she'd be the heroine of the heron's heroin religion.
0ops@piefed.zip · 11 pts · 127d
Then bestow infinite fish
Evkob@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 126d
Pretty sure that's heronsy.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 7 pts · 127d
You could make a religion out of this.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
No don't
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 127d
[heron waits hours, gives up]
"Aight, Im'ma bounce."
brbposting@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 127d
Biiig clap
Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 127d
Heron is just there for the "vibes".
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 126d
Gotta admit it's Insta-worthy. Or LinkedIn. "I catch so many fish at this hole because I'm up grinding in the snow."
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 127d
You don't. The heron's frozen, too.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 127d
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 127d
Why is everyone eating bans nowadays.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 127d
Dear Heron,
I'm not sure how to tell you this so I'll just say it: you need glasses. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 126d
They should feed it fish.
Next Gen bird feeder.
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 127d
Don't you mean a himon?
Hodor@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 127d
Throw a fish
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 126d
Heronysus?
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 126d
Put a rock on it so it's more obvious it's not a pond
zarathustrad@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 125d
Burn that rock! It's a witch!
heartpunk25@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 126d
It looks so scared to try it out.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 1 pts · 126d
me irl
Ruusunmarja@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 126d
Is there going to come out a human face out of it’s mouth?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 127d
Put your longjohns out there and bounce on the damn thing to show him.
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · -18 pts · 127d
let him stand there until freezes, stupid git.
Probably the same one that steals fish from our tiny gardenpond.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 127d
How dare it try to eat food to survive!
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 127d
exactly!
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 127d
If your fish would get busy they could out-reproduce the heron
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 126d
They are trying.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
Said the guy munching on his chicken nuggets that has wife / mother made
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 2 pts · 127d
And humans don't even need to eat meat to survive
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 126d
Life is more than just survival.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 1 pts · 126d
That's true, but survival is still a prerequisite to life, and animals can't even survive if we eat them.
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 126d
Well, i'm not munching on your chicken nuggets, am i?
brbposting@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 127d
U steel feesh feerst
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 126d
I wonder if the people defending the damn bird would have reacted differently if they had watched it pull a 30 year old Koi out of their pond and flew away with it.
I knew that fish for more than half my life. My kids grew up feeding and watching them.
There is always more to a story, and it's good to remember that first impressions of a situation are often only that.
mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 126d
Bro but its crazy to just pick the animal you specifically have a connection to and say "there's more to the story... But not any more to it than that!". What if I had grown up watching that heron? What if I have twice as many kids as you and they all love the heron? Does that tip the scale so that now we should be angry at the fish for trying to kill my heron by starvation? Little fish bastards, why can't they just my heron be?
Of course the real truth is that nature is at odds with itself and there's no way around that. If you can say "yeah I just like the fish cos that's what I like, I don't care that it doesn't make sense", then that's respectable enough. You're just out for your own well-being, just like the fish and the heron both. But getting so heated at the heron for trying to be alive, which is also what your fish try to do, and then extending your hatred to all heronkind is just hilarious
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 126d
And people say studying philosophy is irrelevant for every day life.
here we were just laughing about a bird / venting about a predatory species, and suddenly we are talking ethics and the question if moral(?) applies to animals when discussed by humans.
You are obviously right, in that i place my "pets" over a random predator. but then again, is the comparison truely equal if the heron is your "pet"? the fish seem to me pretty passive in all this, except in their inability to not attract things that want to eat them.
Is good and bad or right and wrong even applicable to animals in nature? and does a fish in a domesticated pond even fall under "living in nature"? would that even make a difference?
Or is the fault my own for not making sure the fish are protected?
Getting back to the beginning, do i have an obligation to moderate my language in any way?
Is it mean to wish for the heron to starve?
Could maybe a case be made that it is a request for poetic justice that one heron lives and a fish dies, and another one starves and a fish lives.
Philosophy is the shit.