https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2095495622003485
China develops iron battery 80 times cheaper than lithium that can last 16 years. It provides a budget-friendly, high-endurance answer for the world’s massive energy storage needs.
https://interestingengineering.com/energy/new-all-iron-battery-sustains-6000-cycles
34 Comments
Akh@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 127d
Meanwhile, Tump fired the entire national science board
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 126d
Kid Rock is working on a new battery. Game changer.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 125d
Hook a generator up to Republican flip flopping hypocrisy, and we could power the universe.
huquad@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 127d
Revolutionary new battery idea that will overtake lithium ion huh? Throw it on the pile
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 126d
For grid-storage they may very well be...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_redox_flow_battery
is e.g. in place in Sacramaneto, CA with a storage of 2 GWh and a maximum power of 200 MW.
For grid-storage durability and ovrerall cost efficiency are more important than energy density so I expect redox flow batteries to overtake lithium ion based batteries there.
diykeyboards@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 127d
I've seen this article every two weeks for the last 15 years.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 127d
Ehh I follow the battery news well enough to know it's different this time.
The way you can tell is that it isn't coming from the MIT press release department.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 126d
Honestly, it's a good time for batteries and solar panels.
I think we're just going to let out current infrastructure rot out from under us and while house generators run on gas.
I mean, we could modernize our infrastructure, but we can barely keep bridges standing and I'm not sure if utilities are communism or not. I suspect that they are.
The lithium iron phosphate is already pretty impressive, just a bit pricey.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 126d
Anything "flow" is going to be game changing to an extent I think let readers really barely understand. It turns energy storage into something as boring and understood as the refrigeration cycle. Flow means storage at scale becomes trivial.
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 127d
Meanwhile the US has a president who doesn't understand how magnets work.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 126d
Magic is an understanding.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 3 pts · 125d
To be fair, neither do i. Or probably most people. But he fires people who do.
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 126d
The actual story buried at the end of a Sino #1 article-
Cleisthenian@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 127d
But at what cost?
ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 126d
Less?
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 125d
Iron batteries are big and heavy. Not good for portable applications.
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 1 pts · 127d
By the way, what happens with redox-flow battery technology?
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 126d
https://www.intelmarketresearch.com/ion-exchange-membranes-for-vanadium-redox-flow-battery-market-41675
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · -7 pts · 126d
Ooohhhh revolutionary battery article #15592508
I'm sure this one won't be bullshit and will come into production tomorrow, right?
htrayl@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 126d
This is just a shallow, cynical, anti-intellectual remark.
Sodium ion batteries are already hitting production.
Iron flow and vanadium redox batteries also already exist in the real world.
Grid and residential battery installations are happening at a rapidly accelerating pace.
Lithium ion battery prices have dropped something like 90% over the last 15 years.
Battery technology is improving at dramatic rate, both lithium ion and non lithium ion solutions.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 126d
the article literally links to how BYD is putting this stuff into production https://interestingengineering.com/energy/catl-ev-battery-7-minute-charge
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 126d
You seem
...
Bitter
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 126d
Because?
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 126d
Who knows
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 126d
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 126d
Weird how Americans have such poor reading comprehension. Oh wait, I guess it's your education system.
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 126d
They seem to have tackled the issue of dendrite forming.
That would reduce maintenance on iron redox flow batteries sigificantly if true.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 126d
So you did not read the article. At all.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 126d
Spamoflage
I'm starting to see that China may have a large presence on lemmy. It would make sense with the .ml groups. You can see a lot of pro China stuff here plus lemmy is a generator against things like AI which benefits China.
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 126d
If people who enjoy futuristic tech and hate AI slop are now on the side of China, sign my ass up
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 126d
I think they are. I think tech forums are essentially places to convince people to hate tech. Hate progress. Meanwhile other countries embrace these new technologies and develop, build and iterate.
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 126d
Like China?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 126d
Yes
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 126d
If you don't want to see so much China and Russia-glazing, just block yogthos and jackeroni, that should cut it down about 40%. I personally don't mind agendaposting because I can tell from the get-go who it's coming from. There are prolific anti-China agendaposters too, for example from an account named Scotty.
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 126d
Or leave our instances