I reaaally want to hope that gamers will be smart enough to take their anger to the right place: The legislature that pushed these bills. But knowing most of them, the anger is all going to go to Sony.
That's the point. Why does a video game need anything more than that? Who's responsibility is it to make sure a gamer is of age or mature enough for a certain game? What arbitrary system is in place to even label a game as needing verification?
Why would you need to prove anything simply to use the device? Fuck all that.
We can't get any kind of gun registration and safer schools, but you're ok with this bullshit invasion of privacy? Once they get firearms under control, I'll be more open to ID verifications. Until then, they're just blowing smoke up your ass. It's a facade to get your info under the guise of "safety". Our politicians can go fuck themselves.
If you want, I can just step on your neck with my boots, if you can't get enough of the government doing it for you. I won't even make you pay me for it
One thing I don't get why people care is, they already have your face in video form if you've been in any video ever on the internet (which I'm positive, the majority of humans have)
Like fb requiring it. If you've ever sent any selfie vid to anyone , they have it already. So why even ask?
Because complacency and defeatism isn't the right answer. We shouldn't make it easier for them in any way we can, and we sure don't have to like it either. Push back.
Right, I get that, but a normal person will just say they already have all my data there's nothing we can do, why care. They have kids and rent to pay.
I don't know about you, but at least in my circle, being "sick and tired of this shit" is becoming extremely normal.
People hate Windows. They hate how apps become more complicated, not simpler. They hate how everything is becoming a subscription. They hate how keeping their files safe is a giant clusterfuck of managing half a dozen cloud services constantly sucking up every file from every one of their devices. They hate how TVs aren't just fucking TVs anymore. They hate how their toaster, oven, dishwasher, and coffee maker needs wifi. They hate how all their favorite things are fragmeneted across a dozen streaming services again. They hate how work involves figuring out a dozen chat apps plus email, a dozen file processing programs, and how all their names and icons keep changing and their prices keep increasing. They hate how remembering up to a hundred account password is an absolutely catastrophy. They hate how their purchases don't last. They hate how "no" doesn't exist anymore in marketing...
I could go on.
Speak to literally anyone, and they've DEFINITELY picked up on at least some part of this, and it has them absolutely livid about how unfair it is.
The market is right for disruption. Anyone who can deliver real privacy without invest and harmful facial recognition and identity verification can topple Fortune 500 companies. These companies are also simultaneously betting the farm on generative AI which will almost certainly lose them enough money that many will close up shop. Oracle is basically done for, for example, because they invested so much money into an AI data center for opening eye that when an opening I inevitably does not have the money to pay for it they will go bankrupt. The harms from this invasive tackle are not only well known but will only compound and people will start to feel unsafe using them soon
It's slow going, but you can absolutely take control. Not everyone can afford it right now, but the sweet thing is... Once you do, it pays for itself.
Because getting rid of a layer of exploitation makes things cheaper and more efficient. Corruption can't compete except through fragile control mechanisms which ARE cracking.
This stuff is getting pushed in our face and is actively harmful. There is literally no benefit to the individual for this. What do I have to gain? The business is imposing this on us for their own gain.
I deleted Facebook over 10 years ago. I've worked to remove as much of my true self from the Internet as possible since. I care. I'm not going to voluntarily give that shit up for something as trivial as a video game.
If you've been around the internet or been in public ever, or done anything with media like YouTube videos or sent a video to your friend with your face in it, they have your face in video already. Thats what I'm saying. They already have it.
Then we're done. They have it, no need for me to put anything else.
Also, these companies are already ready to lose your data, that they just had you verify is you, with probably address, cc info, definitely IP. just because your photo is out there doesn't mean you should willingly out yourself.
42 Comments
BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 95 pts · 117d
Please drink verification can.
GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 117d
Breath the verification fumes from the back vent
Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 116d
The only thing that meme got wrong was the Xbox still being relevant.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 30 pts · 117d
Well, I just learned that you can turn a ps5 into a Linux machine so…
kwarg@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 117d
what? how?
fartsparkles@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 117d
https://github.com/ps5-linux/ps5-linux-loader
Flatfire@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 117d
This only works if you've got a PS5 that you've never once updated. Most aren't going to be that way
Katana314@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 116d
I reaaally want to hope that gamers will be smart enough to take their anger to the right place: The legislature that pushed these bills. But knowing most of them, the anger is all going to go to Sony.
Auth@lemmy.world · -26 pts · 117d
Facial Estimation shouldnt be an option. It should be government ID or parents ID thats it.
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 41 pts · 117d
More like just a date field that you input manually if there must be an age check. Fuck scanning my ID or my face
Auth@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 117d
what would that achieve? Every kid would set the ps5 up and put that field as 18
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 45 pts · 117d
That's the point. Why does a video game need anything more than that? Who's responsibility is it to make sure a gamer is of age or mature enough for a certain game? What arbitrary system is in place to even label a game as needing verification?
Why would you need to prove anything simply to use the device? Fuck all that.
Auth@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 117d
Ohh you're entirely against the concept of age verification. I dont care about that I am just commenting on the age verification method.
Stiggyman@ani.social · 15 pts · 117d
I am entirely against it too. Here is my solution
Shit comes in kids mode by default to unlock you use a 1 doller euro etc payment on a credit card
There. Fixed now its no longer fucking with my privacy and lazy shithead parents can't complain about child safety because they unlocked it
Auth@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 114d
Sounds like you arent against the concept of age verification and just have issue with the method. I am in the same boat.
Stiggyman@ani.social · 1 pts · 114d
Yes and no
I would like it to just not exists.
But if they truly can't be parents then I don't want my internet experience ruined by their incompetence
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 116d
We can't get any kind of gun registration and safer schools, but you're ok with this bullshit invasion of privacy? Once they get firearms under control, I'll be more open to ID verifications. Until then, they're just blowing smoke up your ass. It's a facade to get your info under the guise of "safety". Our politicians can go fuck themselves.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/charts-and-maps
LostCarcosan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 115d
If you want, I can just step on your neck with my boots, if you can't get enough of the government doing it for you. I won't even make you pay me for it
Auth@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 114d
whats the point of this stupid comment?
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 116d
Why all of a sudden do we need to strictly enforce this with government ID?
Auth@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 114d
Because parents want a lazy way to control their childrens access to age restricted content.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · -80 pts · 117d
One thing I don't get why people care is, they already have your face in video form if you've been in any video ever on the internet (which I'm positive, the majority of humans have)
Like fb requiring it. If you've ever sent any selfie vid to anyone , they have it already. So why even ask?
viral.vegabond@piefed.social · 65 pts · 117d
Because complacency and defeatism isn't the right answer. We shouldn't make it easier for them in any way we can, and we sure don't have to like it either. Push back.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · -40 pts · 117d
Right, I get that, but a normal person will just say they already have all my data there's nothing we can do, why care. They have kids and rent to pay.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 36 pts · 117d
I don't know about you, but at least in my circle, being "sick and tired of this shit" is becoming extremely normal.
People hate Windows. They hate how apps become more complicated, not simpler. They hate how everything is becoming a subscription. They hate how keeping their files safe is a giant clusterfuck of managing half a dozen cloud services constantly sucking up every file from every one of their devices. They hate how TVs aren't just fucking TVs anymore. They hate how their toaster, oven, dishwasher, and coffee maker needs wifi. They hate how all their favorite things are fragmeneted across a dozen streaming services again. They hate how work involves figuring out a dozen chat apps plus email, a dozen file processing programs, and how all their names and icons keep changing and their prices keep increasing. They hate how remembering up to a hundred account password is an absolutely catastrophy. They hate how their purchases don't last. They hate how "no" doesn't exist anymore in marketing...
I could go on.
Speak to literally anyone, and they've DEFINITELY picked up on at least some part of this, and it has them absolutely livid about how unfair it is.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 117d
The market is right for disruption. Anyone who can deliver real privacy without invest and harmful facial recognition and identity verification can topple Fortune 500 companies. These companies are also simultaneously betting the farm on generative AI which will almost certainly lose them enough money that many will close up shop. Oracle is basically done for, for example, because they invested so much money into an AI data center for opening eye that when an opening I inevitably does not have the money to pay for it they will go bankrupt. The harms from this invasive tackle are not only well known but will only compound and people will start to feel unsafe using them soon
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 115d
Capitalism will not allow that. Data theft is the only viable business now.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 115d
The term I hear a lot is "everything sucks now" and I agree.
We had it far better 15-20 years ago at a minimum.
Sadly, it will not improve
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 115d
Sure it will. In many ways it already has.
It's slow going, but you can absolutely take control. Not everyone can afford it right now, but the sweet thing is... Once you do, it pays for itself.
Because getting rid of a layer of exploitation makes things cheaper and more efficient. Corruption can't compete except through fragile control mechanisms which ARE cracking.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 117d
This stuff is getting pushed in our face and is actively harmful. There is literally no benefit to the individual for this. What do I have to gain? The business is imposing this on us for their own gain.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 117d
If you dont do it, no play play for you.
Thats the reason people do it . they do not care. Tech corps have all the data already.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 117d
We were told it was just for pond sites, now it's video games and chat apps. It's spreading fast.
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 117d
I deleted Facebook over 10 years ago. I've worked to remove as much of my true self from the Internet as possible since. I care. I'm not going to voluntarily give that shit up for something as trivial as a video game.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 117d
Many will. People dont care.
mister_universe@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 117d
Yeah. People don't care and that's a big problem.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 116d
Yeah. We are the crazy ones for using graphene, tossing windows for Linux etc. 99.9% if people never will.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 117d
What the fuck? Telle how what you said makes any sense
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 117d
Sure.
If you've been around the internet or been in public ever, or done anything with media like YouTube videos or sent a video to your friend with your face in it, they have your face in video already. Thats what I'm saying. They already have it.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 117d
If they already have everything they want, why are they getting pushy with the face scanning?
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 116d
To test compliance , and to get even more data easier.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 116d
Then we're done. They have it, no need for me to put anything else.
Also, these companies are already ready to lose your data, that they just had you verify is you, with probably address, cc info, definitely IP. just because your photo is out there doesn't mean you should willingly out yourself.