He also managed to strip the power from wealthy senators in Rome to give the common people better representation; even if it was only in principal rather than installed/formalized in a new system of government. He was a misguided man by the time he was murdered, but still a popular man of the people for this reason. His disposition with the corrupt, self-serving senators legitimized his right to rule for the plebeians that were ignored by the senate for so long.
Worth remembering that most of what we know of Caesar comes directly from Caesar. He is the man that destroyed and ended the republic for no real reason other than power.
Imo Pompeii is far more deserving of the praise that Caesar receives.
Sure didn't, but I'm sure he didn't really plan on getting murdered either. Maybe he had a plan to reinstall a democracy after his rule. Though I doubt it.
Dictatorship was a tool of the republic. It's where the term came from. In Rome you have to differentiate a tyrant from a dictator. Just look at Cincinnatus.
The Republic's government was failing for a long time. The generals in the republic simply had too much power. When rebels rose in the Sertorian War the senate couldn't do anything for years until Pompey finally ended it, had highlighting the power of the generals over the senate. This wasn't unknown in the republic. It's the reason why the first triumvirate was able to form. The republic had too little checks and balances.
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favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 111d
BigBrownDog@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 111d
wtf did he do to you?
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 111d
LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 110d
He also managed to strip the power from wealthy senators in Rome to give the common people better representation; even if it was only in principal rather than installed/formalized in a new system of government. He was a misguided man by the time he was murdered, but still a popular man of the people for this reason. His disposition with the corrupt, self-serving senators legitimized his right to rule for the plebeians that were ignored by the senate for so long.
bomibantai@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 110d
Why are you dick riding a guy who died more than ten years ago
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 110d
Why can't you just admit that Rome is stronger than ever thanks to Caesar? You have Caesar Derangement Syndrome.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 110d
Worth remembering that most of what we know of Caesar comes directly from Caesar. He is the man that destroyed and ended the republic for no real reason other than power.
Imo Pompeii is far more deserving of the praise that Caesar receives.
Tortellinius@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 110d
This statement is not true.
Cicero and Cato the Younger lived during Caesar's time. Cicero's speeches and texts are very well known and telling on Caesar.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 110d
I said 'most' as Caesar created a shitload of propaganda about himself. Obviously, an adept student would look deeper than that, as you have.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 110d
LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 110d
Sure didn't, but I'm sure he didn't really plan on getting murdered either. Maybe he had a plan to reinstall a democracy after his rule. Though I doubt it.
Brummbaer@pawb.social · 0 pts · 110d
The same the Democrats do in the US. Half measures for the people at home and warcrimes for the imperium abroad.
eyes@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 110d
There were 85 dictators before him. I'm not kidding.
Tortellinius@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 110d
Dictatorship was a tool of the republic. It's where the term came from. In Rome you have to differentiate a tyrant from a dictator. Just look at Cincinnatus.
Sirius006@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 110d
How is it better to have just one?
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 88d
Not dictatorship per se, but (in a sense even as general doing his own thing) he did bring forward proper imperialism like we think of it today.
(Ups, sry! How tf did I end up in such an old thread, how far beneath Moria did I doomscroll??)
Tortellinius@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 110d
The Republic's government was failing for a long time. The generals in the republic simply had too much power. When rebels rose in the Sertorian War the senate couldn't do anything for years until Pompey finally ended it, had highlighting the power of the generals over the senate. This wasn't unknown in the republic. It's the reason why the first triumvirate was able to form. The republic had too little checks and balances.
Jumi@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 110d
He murdered up to 60% of Gaul's total population
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 110d
Yeah but if he hadn't there would be more French people
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 110d
I would argue that without Caesar, there wouldn't be any French people.
BigBrownDog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 110d
Yeah, but like, OP wasn't there for that.
Jumi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 110d
Missed that part of your comment, sorry for that
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 111d
his salad is gross
Sagan_Wept@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 110d
Genocidal and a tyrant
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 111d
You're thinking of Marc Antony
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 111d
The Latino singer?
ElReatonVaquer0@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 110d
This is the average exchange in The Sopranos lmao
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 110d
SHBI7368@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 111d
i dint know there was a grave for him. always assumed lost to history
Madison420@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 111d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Caesar
The answer is it might be cesars grave it could also be the altar or something entirely unrelated in the correct-ish area.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 110d
AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 111d
Great Caesar’s ghost!
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 111d
How come there's no salad?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 110d
Leave a knife
Blackout@fedia.io · 4 pts · 111d
I long for the days when we had a powerful emperor and the Gauls were the bad guys.
khannie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 111d
I honestly feel like the Gauls were the good guys all along.
vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 111d
There's actually a really good documentary series about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 111d
Hey cool a place I’ve been
vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 110d
Damn Talos Worshipping Stormcloaks. The Empire was nice and lazy before they started leaving offerings for Talos on his grave.