Trump thinks America is helping Germany by stationing US soldiers there, when in fact it's the other way round - Germany is doing America a favor by providing a strategic base.
That's how stupid this guy is, he doesn't even understand the basics.
Because the only foreign military in America is getting trained to use the equipment they buy from American companies...
He assumes the only reason countries let American military in, is another grift with kickbacks.
He doesn't know what their grift is (likely because there isn't one) but he literally can't imagine anyone doing anything that doesn't benefit them
So he just cancels anything, and expects it to "hurt" like when someone fucks with his grifts.
When people still negotiate because what he cancelled actually has a purpose, he just thinks that means he was right and they're protecting a grift instead of having basic human empathy
I used to live in a city that had a large British base which got shut down during that time. The local media was full of stories of how that would negatively effect the economy and such, but overall it barely made a dent, and not having these drunk soildiers causing trouble every weekend sure was an advantage 🤷
Ignoring the rhetoricity of the question: The military occupation of Germany after WW2 lasting for 45 years (1945-1990/1991) resulted in a lot NATO-standard military infrastructure being already established throughout the country; So when the occupation officially ended the US essentially just figured "why not rent already existing bases instead of building new ones elsewhere".
The disconnect is you're talking about how it effects the people who live there...
Back in the day, a base would beef up local small businesses, who had to hire substantially more employees, who then spent their wages in town. Now it just means your chain stores take a profit cut. Not many people lose jobs, because there's not that many to lose. The few who do, didn't have much disposable income to spread around anyways
When the local media complains about it hurting an area, they're talking about GDP level stuff. That just doesn't really affect people's day today lives, especially in the short term or if there's corruption that was easting up those funds.
But all over, these a disconnect because billionaires syphon off as much as they can. So things that used to put money in local communities, just don't anymore. So places need to re-evalute if they still have a benefit
The US military employees something like 12,000 German civilians directly. You will need new jobs for them. The US soldiers also spend some money in the local economy. So we are talking maybe 3,000 jobs or so, which can be replaced with some smart government spending if need be.
“I feel no ill will, it’s great, there’s cohesion,” he said of US-German ties. “But it’s not fair that we keep boosting your economy so y’all can make money off us.”
This is such a fucked point of view. What does he expect? That everywhere he spends money should be a US business? That all transactions should be in USD? That all sales taxes should go to the US government? Get fucked. He’s here on German soil using German taxpayer funded infrastructure. My all means, fuck the fuck off back to your shithole country. Once all the Americans are gone I would gladly move in if the lack of demand meant lower rent/property prices.
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glorkon@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 114d
Trump thinks America is helping Germany by stationing US soldiers there, when in fact it's the other way round - Germany is doing America a favor by providing a strategic base.
That's how stupid this guy is, he doesn't even understand the basics.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 114d
Because the only foreign military in America is getting trained to use the equipment they buy from American companies...
He assumes the only reason countries let American military in, is another grift with kickbacks.
He doesn't know what their grift is (likely because there isn't one) but he literally can't imagine anyone doing anything that doesn't benefit them
So he just cancels anything, and expects it to "hurt" like when someone fucks with his grifts.
When people still negotiate because what he cancelled actually has a purpose, he just thinks that means he was right and they're protecting a grift instead of having basic human empathy
poVoq@slrpnk.net · 30 pts · 114d
I used to live in a city that had a large British base which got shut down during that time. The local media was full of stories of how that would negatively effect the economy and such, but overall it barely made a dent, and not having these drunk soildiers causing trouble every weekend sure was an advantage 🤷
kebab@piefed.zip · 13 pts · 114d
yeah they won’t be missed. also there are still 30.000-35.000 US soldiers in germany.
greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo · 4 pts · 114d
But why?
Muehe@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 114d
Ignoring the rhetoricity of the question: The military occupation of Germany after WW2 lasting for 45 years (1945-1990/1991) resulted in a lot NATO-standard military infrastructure being already established throughout the country; So when the occupation officially ended the US essentially just figured "why not rent already existing bases instead of building new ones elsewhere".
kebab@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 114d
to protect us of course. havent found out from whom yet, but i feel really protected right now.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 114d
The disconnect is you're talking about how it effects the people who live there...
Back in the day, a base would beef up local small businesses, who had to hire substantially more employees, who then spent their wages in town. Now it just means your chain stores take a profit cut. Not many people lose jobs, because there's not that many to lose. The few who do, didn't have much disposable income to spread around anyways
When the local media complains about it hurting an area, they're talking about GDP level stuff. That just doesn't really affect people's day today lives, especially in the short term or if there's corruption that was easting up those funds.
But all over, these a disconnect because billionaires syphon off as much as they can. So things that used to put money in local communities, just don't anymore. So places need to re-evalute if they still have a benefit
Melchior@feddit.org · 4 pts · 114d
The US military employees something like 12,000 German civilians directly. You will need new jobs for them. The US soldiers also spend some money in the local economy. So we are talking maybe 3,000 jobs or so, which can be replaced with some smart government spending if need be.
kebab@piefed.zip · 13 pts · 114d
German town = an us themed restaurant, an high school teacher and some us Soldiers. lol
emmanuel_car@k.fe.derate.me · 8 pts · 114d
This is such a fucked point of view. What does he expect? That everywhere he spends money should be a US business? That all transactions should be in USD? That all sales taxes should go to the US government? Get fucked. He’s here on German soil using German taxpayer funded infrastructure. My all means, fuck the fuck off back to your shithole country. Once all the Americans are gone I would gladly move in if the lack of demand meant lower rent/property prices.
tomiant@piefed.social · 4 pts · 114d
Get real, you love their dollars, who wants foreign soldiers stationed in your own sovereign country?
Fusselwurm@feddit.org · 0 pts · 114d
get real, who wants anyone from anywhere if not for the money – be they tourists or soldiers