well cardassians also went to war with the federation after that, they got thier ass handed to them, and needed to rebuild. they never recovered from that, dominion destroyed most of thier cities in the ened too.
The problem is that almost all of the Cardassians we see are actively participating Space Nazis.
It's just like how people are biased against toothbrush mustaches today because they're associated with Hitler. You don't have to think the toothbrush mustache is ugly in itself to choose not to have one, due to its historical connection to a bad person.
It's not that people dislike the Cardassian race, even though they are an unappealing color and by most reckonings, they smell bad. It's wrong to suggest that somebody is racist just because every time they see a spoonhead, they're reminded of all of the horrible things Cardassians have done on behalf of their government.
romulans seem more racist/xenophobic than cardassians, since they are so much more secretive than the cardassians, which is pratically willing to trade/negotiate to rebuild thier civilization,.
Got me imagining a story line where we discover the Pakleds we've seen, are nothing like what Pakleds usually are, and that they'd been drugged to make them stupid, then duped by those who drugged them, to send them forth across the galaxy to find stuff to make them go. Perhaps even on a global scale, for generations, risking population collapse and extinction as all their men are sent into space. But a small enclave managed to escape the scheme exacted on their world... erudite, affable, amiable, prudent, generous, insightful, quick witted, jolly, light spirited, bright, present, conscious, conscientious, not at all like what we know them as, when in their drugged and hypnotically enslaved zombie state of being. ... Once alleviating them of this chemical lobotomy and shackle, the Pakleds could become superb members of the federation. [I'm quite looking forward to seeing the light and nimble, fresh, bright, witty, pleasant, considerate Pakleds now... ]
Could be a good story to have the federation introspect on all those times they looked down on the Pakleds in irritation and distrust, treating them with scorn, contempt, and dismissal.
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its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 70 pts · 104d
Two things I cannot tolerate. First is xenophobia against different aliens. The second is the Ocampa.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 104d
Eldritch@piefed.world · 20 pts · 104d
Screw the Ocampa
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 104d
"Janeway, you ignorant slut"
Yay for being old enough to get that.
ripcord@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 104d
I'm not quite old enough to get that, but I'm old enough to get that because I'm aware of several things that happened before my time. Dozens even.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 104d
Damn, that's the epitome of geek rock
Ziglin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 104d
I read that as Opaka and wholeheartedly agreed at first.
Windex007@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 104d
Usually they'll give romulans or cardassians the benefit of the doubt.
Ferengi? No fucking way those space jews are up to something.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 29 pts · 104d
Ferengi are only a couple social revolutions away from becoming members of the federation.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 104d
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 104d
Gene Roddenberry : You know I want our villains to become allies to show that with enough time, peace and co-operation is inevitable.
Ira Steven Behr : We will have racism against our villains who will forever be villains
lordnikon@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 104d
Stich in time and end of the series showed that not to be true. They were on their way to rebuilding much like the Japanese did after ww2
_NetNomad@fedia.io · 6 pts · 104d
A Stitch in Time is so fucking good. it's a shame Robinson didn't do more, he knows the character inside and out and is just a great writer in general
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 104d
Parallels showed when the Bajorans overthrew the occupation the cardies quickly joined the Federation
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 104d
well cardassians also went to war with the federation after that, they got thier ass handed to them, and needed to rebuild. they never recovered from that, dominion destroyed most of thier cities in the ened too.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 104d
Until we fast forward about a millennium and they've become hybridized. Then it's just back to the haves and have-nots.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 32 pts · 104d
The problem is that almost all of the Cardassians we see are actively participating Space Nazis.
It's just like how people are biased against toothbrush mustaches today because they're associated with Hitler. You don't have to think the toothbrush mustache is ugly in itself to choose not to have one, due to its historical connection to a bad person.
It's not that people dislike the Cardassian race, even though they are an unappealing color and by most reckonings, they smell bad. It's wrong to suggest that somebody is racist just because every time they see a spoonhead, they're reminded of all of the horrible things Cardassians have done on behalf of their government.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 8 pts · 104d
Glad there's a dissident movement.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 104d
romulans seem more racist/xenophobic than cardassians, since they are so much more secretive than the cardassians, which is pratically willing to trade/negotiate to rebuild thier civilization,.
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 104d
While we're on the subject...Dukats statue? Does Bajor have one yet? Must be racists
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 104d
Cardassians: We hate the Federation!
[Federation at war with the Cardies]
[Klingons get duped by the Founders, start a war against the Cardies]
Cardassians: We love the Federation!
[Secret alliance with the Dominion]
Cardassians: We hate the Federation!
[Dominion uses Cardies as canon fodder and wipes out big cities]
Cardassians: We love the Federation!
fireweed@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 104d
Pakleds.
(Is it racism if they deserve it?)
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 9 pts · 104d
Got me imagining a story line where we discover the Pakleds we've seen, are nothing like what Pakleds usually are, and that they'd been drugged to make them stupid, then duped by those who drugged them, to send them forth across the galaxy to find stuff to make them go. Perhaps even on a global scale, for generations, risking population collapse and extinction as all their men are sent into space. But a small enclave managed to escape the scheme exacted on their world... erudite, affable, amiable, prudent, generous, insightful, quick witted, jolly, light spirited, bright, present, conscious, conscientious, not at all like what we know them as, when in their drugged and hypnotically enslaved zombie state of being. ... Once alleviating them of this chemical lobotomy and shackle, the Pakleds could become superb members of the federation. [I'm quite looking forward to seeing the light and nimble, fresh, bright, witty, pleasant, considerate Pakleds now... ]
Could be a good story to have the federation introspect on all those times they looked down on the Pakleds in irritation and distrust, treating them with scorn, contempt, and dismissal.
Long live Rodenberry's vision.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 104d
miles o brien pretty much hate cardassians.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 104d
Correction:
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 104d
What did he become you might ask?
Sad.
He became sad.
Digit@lemmy.wtf · 7 pts · 104d
"The bloody Cardies" will give all but the best of us a sour impression of them if having been through war with them, and tortured by them.
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 104d
"The Bloody Cardies" sounds like a good emo band name
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 104d
Or an 80's Brit Punk band.