c/FuckTheUSA · by IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 107d

ICE agents storm Disney cruise docked in California and arrest staff

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ice-agents-disney-cruise-san-diego-b2971807.html

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Noite_Etion@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 107d (2 replies)

So if you are just working on one of these cruise liners and you aren't American you will just be arrested upon entering a US port?

Can someone with more knowledge on the subject explain how this is legal, or if I have misunderstood something - this cannot be legal, surely.

kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 107d

So if you are just working on one of these cruise liners and you aren't American

Over 90% of the crew on almost every ship (both passenger and cargo ships) is not a white American.

ICE has opened a massive can of worms if this is going to be their new way of meeting their arbitrarily quotas.

cecilkorik@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 107d

Things don't need to be legal to happen, and no consequences are possible against state-sponsored violence. Well, not any direct consequences anyway. This is classic "who watches the watchmen" stuff. Who stops the police when they're committing crimes? More police? The super-police? What happens when the super-police start committing crimes too? What happens when they're even worse than the police? This is not a solvable problem, it is a manageable one, but only when it's being actively managed, which has not been the case for a long time.

LodeMike@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 107d (1 reply)

Oh my fucking god...

They can be in the ship legally. This has been true pretty much everywhere since ships were invented.
They went and wasted all these resources on this, and probably pissed off a whole bunch of trump supporters just so they can increment their arrest numbers.

Edit: oh yeah do it on the back end of the cruise. That'll show you care about catching ""the bad ones"" or whatever TF...

kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 107d

oh yeah do it on the back end of the cruise. That'll show you care about catching ""the bad ones""

The last day of a cruise is also the first day of the next cruise. The ships will only be docked long enough to get the old passengers off and a new set of passengers on.

Regardless, this should put a chill on the entire shipping industry. All ships, both passenger and cargo, have the majority of their crews come from outside the USA.

mynameisbob@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 94d

Fuck cruises but yeah these poor workers. WTF

Those that want to save the children are the ones who harm the children. I do not believe this is a legit operation. Tom hoeman is a sneaky sneak... seems a litter smart than the ol bovinae

“After boarding the vessel and interviewing 26 suspected crew members from the Philippines, one suspected crew member from Portugal, and one from Indonesia, officers confirmed that 27 of the 28 subjects were involved in either the receipt, possession, transportation, distribution, or viewing of CSEM or child pornography,” the agency told The Independent in a statement.