cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/1096740
France Moves to Break Encrypted Messaging
https://reclaimthenet.org/france-moves-to-break-encrypted-messaging
https://reclaimthenet.org/france-moves-to-break-encrypted-messaging
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/1096740
15 Comments
mokey@therock.fraggle-rock.org · 51 pts · 130d
Only authoritarians think that way. Fortunately France has a long history of eating their rich. It may be time to remember how to do it.
Steve@communick.news · 45 pts · 130d
I wonder if they understand, it'll be impossible to truly stop this.
Even if they get some of the low hanging fruit. People will just move to the more secure, distributed, and anonymous options.
Or are they actually ignorant enough to believe this is something they can solve.
Sabin10@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 130d
People with power believe everything happens because they allow it and if they don't like it then they can just make it stop.
halfapage@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 130d
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 129d
Right now if you use encryption the authorities have no proof you're doing something illegal, because you might not be. But if they make (secure) encryption itself illegal, then anyone they aren't sure about suddenly becomes a criminal they're sure about. Then it's just a matter of selectively prosecuting those whom they most dislike. So it doesn't matter to them that much whether lots of people find a technical workaround. If they can't read your messages that's all they need to be able to silence you if you're inconvenient.
Antaeus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 128d
I suppose it would be illegal for the French government to use encrypted tools, right?
sarcasm
scutiger@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 130d
Most people don't know anything about encryption or privacy. The few who do care will find other options.
Steve@communick.news · 23 pts · 130d
That's what I'm getting at. All the 'Bad Guys' who genuinely need the security to do bad things will just move to the other options, along with us tech savvy types. The only people they'll be able to spy on are the normies who aren't actually criminals...
Actually I think I get it now. I'm sure for many of them, it's not about catching criminals at all.
scutiger@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 130d
They don't care about the criminals though, it's the normies they want to spy on.
The criminals are going to do other stuff that's going to put them on a watchlist, it's almost inevitable. But normal people aren't going to do any of that, so they have "no need" to be protected by encryption.
Steve@communick.news · 3 pts · 130d
That's what I just figured out.
tal@lemmy.today · 26 pts · 130d
I mean, I can send a GPG-encrypted message over a messaging platform and you can recover it if you want even if that platform's native encryption is backdoored, but you're still just looking at an end-to-end encrypted message.
Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world:
Back at tal's computer:
tal sends the message to Doctor Doom over the backdoored messaging system. French intelligence watches closely. They break the platform-native encryption, but all they can see is the above text.
On Dr. Doom's computer:
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 129d
Playing high level chess, not unlike a certain Latvian guy called Mikhail...
devolution@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 130d
Leave it to Europe to take the wrong message from all of this and run with it.
yggstyle@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 129d
France successfully destroys encrypted messaging and immediately begins work on the rampant credential / financial / personal information theft. They believe that this "plain text" hacker is responsible. Who is this mastermind?
Antaeus@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 128d
One of the founding principles of the republic is freedom? Ironic.
discocactus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 128d
Good luck I guess?