Nothing is 100% good or 100% bad. Even oxygen has problems that are caused in the body.
Coffee, like many things, can cause some health issues, but also some health benefits.
The problem is that the headlines only talk about this specific effect studied. When you get down the details, it's a lot less clear cut then "drink coffee = live longer" or "drink coffee = die younger"
Which I'd bet 90% of the drinks they sell to people are less than a splash of coffee with 15 pumps of caramel and milk. It's like a splash of coffee for color like coke in a Long Island Iced tea.
They were funded by one and found success in another.
They would have made sense if one worked and they were funded by the same industry
Would have made sense if they simply found success in their results and published them
They said that it works when combining coffee and fruit. Which one paid for it? Both would have told the other industry to pay for the study. It's definitely only coffee or "fruit".
One was actually meaningful. Guessing fruit was actually beneficial and coffee paid the bill but it's definitely a red flag to include both in the finding. Either coffee is good and fruit is meaningless, or the other way around.
Tbh, "fruit" is such a large category that there's no way they studied every fruit. They "studied coffee" and added "fruit" so they could post a benefit. I love coffee but this study is bullshit.
Alright but apart from the sugar and the fiber and the antioxidants and the vitamins and the minerals and the enzymes, what has fruit ever done for us?
Complex answers there due to bioavailability, combinations, and palatability. Cow liver has lots of vitamin A but it is liver. Carrots have a lot of A if you eat good fats with them. Sea Buckthorn has more than you need but you also get v.C and lots of other nutrients and it's a candy.
Well it’s just a major part of many primate species’ diets, including hominids. Your mileage may vary depending on gut flora etc but humans eat a lot of fruits in general.
If I eat 1 egg a day I get a substantial part of my daily intake of every vitamin except C, which I can then find rich in vegetables instead. Veggies have more vitamins than fruit, usually, as far as I understand. E.g. vitamin C, much higher content in broccoli than, say, an orange.
Similar thing with vitamin A. Everyone keeps yapping about carrots and veggies, when the best source of it is animal liver. Some animals like polar bears have so much vitamin A in their liver that you can easily overdose on it and die. It's not even close.
Not by chewing nor acid stomach, but by gut bacteria, and if you meant "if" instead of "is"... Well, mainly slowing down the digestion which makes you absorb more of nutrients, regulates sugar in the blood and more 1001 stuff
It seems this story is based on an unpublished paper abstract presented at European Congress on Obesity 2026 titled "Higher Dietary Polyphenol Intake Is Associated with a Lower Risk of Short Telomeres: Evidence from the SUN Cohort Study".
62 Comments
4grams@awful.systems · 54 pts · 99d
It’s good, it’s bad, it’s good, it’s bad, it’s…
Fuck it, life is better with coffee, and fruit.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 98d
Nothing is 100% good or 100% bad. Even oxygen has problems that are caused in the body.
Coffee, like many things, can cause some health issues, but also some health benefits.
The problem is that the headlines only talk about this specific effect studied. When you get down the details, it's a lot less clear cut then "drink coffee = live longer" or "drink coffee = die younger"
victorz@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 98d
This is why I hate science reporting in the media.
demonsword@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 98d
enjoy while you can, because climate change is ruining this too
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 99d
10 bucks says the studies were paid for by coffee and fruit industries.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 99d
Yeah I came here to say 'study sponsored by Starbucks'
Tiral@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 99d
Which I'd bet 90% of the drinks they sell to people are less than a splash of coffee with 15 pumps of caramel and milk. It's like a splash of coffee for color like coke in a Long Island Iced tea.
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 99d
I always just used dark rum for that, back when I did the drinkin'
Chaotic_Altruist@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 98d
They were funded by one and found success in another.
They would have made sense if one worked and they were funded by the same industry
Would have made sense if they simply found success in their results and published them
They said that it works when combining coffee and fruit. Which one paid for it? Both would have told the other industry to pay for the study. It's definitely only coffee or "fruit".
One was actually meaningful. Guessing fruit was actually beneficial and coffee paid the bill but it's definitely a red flag to include both in the finding. Either coffee is good and fruit is meaningless, or the other way around.
Tbh, "fruit" is such a large category that there's no way they studied every fruit. They "studied coffee" and added "fruit" so they could post a benefit. I love coffee but this study is bullshit.
Astronut@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 99d
I drink coffee and eat fruit every morning. I’ll let yall know if I die early on account of it!
nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 99d
Halve, not have
Astronut@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 99d
Must be the coffee and fruit shutting my brain down already. I didn’t even catch that. Now I gotta live longer accidentally doing the right thing!
baronvonj@piefed.social · 3 pts · 99d
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 98d
The funny thing is that in French, those 2 words are spelled and said exactly the same way.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 98d
gotta add 2 shots of whiskey and 3 cigs to complete that breakfast.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 98d
it blows my mind how many people don't eat any fruit or veg at all.
victorz@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 98d
Veg, yes, but what does fruit really give you except fiber and glucose?
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 98d
DisasterTransport@startrek.website · 14 pts · 98d
Alright but apart from the sugar and the fiber and the antioxidants and the vitamins and the minerals and the enzymes, what has fruit ever done for us?
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 98d
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 97d
Peace?
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 98d
More than what's in meat and vegetables? 🤔
It's there any fruit with more vitamins and such things than you can find in a corresponding vegetable or meat?
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 98d
Complex answers there due to bioavailability, combinations, and palatability. Cow liver has lots of vitamin A but it is liver. Carrots have a lot of A if you eat good fats with them. Sea Buckthorn has more than you need but you also get v.C and lots of other nutrients and it's a candy.
Also as primates we are built for fruit.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 98d
Complex indeed.
Could you explain a bit more about what being "built for fruit" means? Built more for fruit than other things or just built to "handle" it?
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 98d
Well it’s just a major part of many primate species’ diets, including hominids. Your mileage may vary depending on gut flora etc but humans eat a lot of fruits in general.
victorz@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 98d
Just because we do as humans doesn't mean it's the most nutritious. Look at the diet of koalas for example.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 98d
Yummy
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 98d
vitamins
victorz@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 98d
If I eat 1 egg a day I get a substantial part of my daily intake of every vitamin except C, which I can then find rich in vegetables instead. Veggies have more vitamins than fruit, usually, as far as I understand. E.g. vitamin C, much higher content in broccoli than, say, an orange.
Shayeta@feddit.org · 0 pts · 98d
Similar thing with vitamin A. Everyone keeps yapping about carrots and veggies, when the best source of it is animal liver. Some animals like polar bears have so much vitamin A in their liver that you can easily overdose on it and die. It's not even close.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 98d
Yep. We don't really need fruit.
Vandalismo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 97d
Fiber is already more than enough reason to eat fruit, why are you searching for more?
victorz@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 97d
Fiber isn't something the body can break down, so what are you getting from it?
Vandalismo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 95d
That's exactly what makes it good for you, it's not totally digested
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 95d
What you're getting is [the fact] that it's not digested?
Vandalismo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
Not by chewing nor acid stomach, but by gut bacteria, and if you meant "if" instead of "is"... Well, mainly slowing down the digestion which makes you absorb more of nutrients, regulates sugar in the blood and more 1001 stuff
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
And can you not get that from vegetables instead?
baller_w@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 98d
Based on my fruit and coffintake, I’m living forever. Ignore the alcohol.
modus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 97d
I don't know if that's a typo or not. But I like it.
xep@discuss.online · 9 pts · 99d
Can anyone find the study?
FoxyFerengi@startrek.website · 17 pts · 99d
As far as I can tell it's not yet published. Why on earth would this be reported if it hasn't made it through the publishing process? Lol
Here is a reaction to the findings that were presented at the conference mentioned in the op article.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 98d
because it makes for good click bait
ragica@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 99d
It seems this story is based on an unpublished paper abstract presented at European Congress on Obesity 2026 titled "Higher Dietary Polyphenol Intake Is Associated with a Lower Risk of Short Telomeres: Evidence from the SUN Cohort Study".
You can see it in the conference program.
https://eco2026.org/assets/docs/programme-book.pdf
And here is another reference.
https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-a-european-congress-on-obesity-unpublished-conference-abstract-on-association-between-higher-dietary-polyphenol-intake-and-lower-risk-of-short-telomeres/
garretble@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 98d
Too bad coffee tastes like trash to this guy.
Guess I'll die.
I do often eat some fruit, though.
victorz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 98d
I'd rather take years off my life than having to suffer every day by drinking coffee.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 98d
Yep, you'll die if you're not addicted to caffeine
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 98d
You could probably sub in chocolate for a similar benefit.
dipcart@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 98d
What about a strawberry flavored monster??? Is that the same or...?
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 98d
What about 2-3 STOK Cappuccino 48oz bottles a day, and a Bang to help me calm down after?
ignoble_stigmas@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 98d
How about substituting fruit with a cigarette?
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 98d
I think that's called a Continental Breakfast.
TobJEnd@feddit.org · 2 pts · 97d
Don't mind if I do
LustLive@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 99d
But I drink black tea, n bunch of fruits.
Is green tea any good??
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 98d
Pu Erh is probably the healthiest stimulant hot drink available. Green teas are a close second.
goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org · 2 pts · 99d
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 98d
tea is fine.
vga@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 98d
Aah fruit. My favourite fruit.