I always wondered how they made pants that do this. Normally if you stretch material across two points it flattens across the span. Is this material just so thin that it doesn’t? Do they put a seam or darts in to intentionally pull it into the crack?
hmm yeah i've a bit of trouble with the whole concept of "objectifying" because what does that really mean?
in my view, people are always both objects and subjects at the same time. it's like people have a body and a mind at the same time, because only having 1 of the 2 would be pointless.
I think you might be taking the term a bit too literally. When people say objectifying, they don’t mean acknowledging or sexualizing their body. They mean reducing a person to just their body or sexual function, as if their mind, feelings, and autonomy don’t matter.
It’s when the body is treated as all there is. Think of the 1950s and '60s, women were often seen as existing primarily for reproduction or male pleasure, not as full people with their own goals, thoughts, or boundaries.
Sex positivity, by contrast, says: bodies are great, sex is great, but the other person remains a subject, someone with consent, desires, and dignity of their own. You can appreciate the body without erasing the person.
huh i think that's a good explanation actually. i've had similar thoughts myself but didn't have the words for it so i called it "sexism II" (which you call "sex positivity") to differentiate it from "sexism I" (sexism). It might be silly but i didn't know how else to express myself.
I also think that it's noteworthy that the "reduction to a function" is something that happened to basically everyone in 1960, not just to women. Men were just as much "reduced" to being the "breadwinner", which is a function as well. I think that's not talked about as much because men don't tend to talk about "being reduced to a function" as much. Some kind of "society forbids to complain" or sth.
Good point. I recently went to see a stand up comedian. And while the rest of the audience was laughing I remained silent. I was focused on what exactly is the meaning of what the comedian was saying.
Why haven't you contributed anything better? Or anything at all? Mickey out here mining horny memes and presenting them to us. You're just reaping the benefits of another's labor and complaining about it not being good enough, what are you a CEO?
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artifex@piefed.zip · 27 pts · 97d
I always wondered how they made pants that do this. Normally if you stretch material across two points it flattens across the span. Is this material just so thin that it doesn’t? Do they put a seam or darts in to intentionally pull it into the crack?
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 97d
I wondered the same, then my SO got one, it's a seam that makes it look real funny when not worn.
notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 97d
It’s a seam that’s ‘pinched’ so to speak, right in the crack of the ass.
Funnily enough it looks like a vertically stretched asshole when not being worn.
artifex@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 97d
Amazing. I’m not sure why I’m surprised.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 97d
It's definitely designed to give you a voluntary wedgie. People pay for this.
Mickey7@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 97d
Interesting that it's designed that way. From the front does it also give the wearer a moose knuckle?
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 97d
Yes. That and the garment might be undersized, while taking advantage of the high lycra/spandex content of the material.
KarfiolosHus@discuss.tchncs.de · 16 pts · 96d
Is it from Mickey?
I'm so fucking smart. Hi Mickey :)
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 7 pts · 97d
3 ... 2 ... 1 ... before it causes a shitstorm about sexualizing women
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 97d
Honestly I find Lemmy to be generally sex positive as long as you don't objectify.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 12 pts · 97d
hmm yeah i've a bit of trouble with the whole concept of "objectifying" because what does that really mean?
in my view, people are always both objects and subjects at the same time. it's like people have a body and a mind at the same time, because only having 1 of the 2 would be pointless.
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 97d
I think you might be taking the term a bit too literally. When people say objectifying, they don’t mean acknowledging or sexualizing their body. They mean reducing a person to just their body or sexual function, as if their mind, feelings, and autonomy don’t matter.
It’s when the body is treated as all there is. Think of the 1950s and '60s, women were often seen as existing primarily for reproduction or male pleasure, not as full people with their own goals, thoughts, or boundaries.
Sex positivity, by contrast, says: bodies are great, sex is great, but the other person remains a subject, someone with consent, desires, and dignity of their own. You can appreciate the body without erasing the person.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 3 pts · 97d
huh i think that's a good explanation actually. i've had similar thoughts myself but didn't have the words for it so i called it "sexism II" (which you call "sex positivity") to differentiate it from "sexism I" (sexism). It might be silly but i didn't know how else to express myself.
I also think that it's noteworthy that the "reduction to a function" is something that happened to basically everyone in 1960, not just to women. Men were just as much "reduced" to being the "breadwinner", which is a function as well. I think that's not talked about as much because men don't tend to talk about "being reduced to a function" as much. Some kind of "society forbids to complain" or sth.
Mickey7@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 97d
People that lead miserable empty lives can never grasp that something is just a joke
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 2 pts · 97d
ehh, i tend to think that there's meaning in a lot of jokes
Mickey7@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 97d
Good point. I recently went to see a stand up comedian. And while the rest of the audience was laughing I remained silent. I was focused on what exactly is the meaning of what the comedian was saying.
Drusas@fedia.io · 2 pts · 96d
*objectifying
f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 92d
Warm cookie 🤤
GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
I'm going to guess that the guy who took this picture is wearing a blue polo shirt, light khaki shorts, with a dark brown belt, loafers with no socks.
boogiebored@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 97d
this sucks. delete this
remon@ani.social · 53 pts · 97d
We can't just go around deleting things because they suck. Think of your mum!
boogiebored@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 97d
i have no words 😶
no u
kylie_kraft@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 97d
horny posts annoy me but this was worth it
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 97d
Why haven't you contributed anything better? Or anything at all? Mickey out here mining horny memes and presenting them to us. You're just reaping the benefits of another's labor and complaining about it not being good enough, what are you a CEO?
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 97d
God damn CEO’s getting all up in the horny posts!
boogiebored@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 96d
youre a gross perv supporter
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 2 pts · 97d
you know what, fuck you, we can't have nice things because of people like you, i hope you suffer in the puritanical hell that you deserve to be in
boogiebored@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 96d
weird pervert go jork off elsewhere freako