Yes, because the joke is that the actual sentiment is that communism is the goal and socialism is a potential way to make the transition easier. See: The State and Revolution, chapter V.
ETA: completing the thought: and "internet leftists" are not interested in actually understanding the writing of historical figures.
Yes, I understood that. My joke was that internet leftists often engage in stupid arguments with themselves and have clashing ideas of what is 'right'.
"Socialism is the goal, communism is the way to reach it" is actually what a lot of MLs seem to secretly believe in the sense that they want to use the appeal of communism to motivate people to create socialism. I have seen very little interest from them in actually building communism.
Yeah but if I believed in scary quote then I'd think everyone would get scared if I said "lacked good hygiene ritual"
But my next thought was they believe the person in the picture was doubted to be Che. Maybe that adds fantastical element of Che living on and orchestrating events presumably to this day
Che isn't his name it's a nickname. I think they're using quotation in the sense of naming convention Ernesto "Che" Guevara would normally be used to denote it is a nick name and not part of his legal name.
I'm old though and reading things with continually common grammar from the last few centuries until the modern digital era has started changing things isn't a problem for me to figure out from the context it's written in unlike those people who are bothered by "scare quotes" that havent been reading things since before the internet existed
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astropenguin5@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 100d
Average Internet leftist discussion
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 25 pts · 100d
Yes, because the joke is that the actual sentiment is that communism is the goal and socialism is a potential way to make the transition easier. See: The State and Revolution, chapter V.
ETA: completing the thought: and "internet leftists" are not interested in actually understanding the writing of historical figures.
astropenguin5@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 100d
Yes, I understood that. My joke was that internet leftists often engage in stupid arguments with themselves and have clashing ideas of what is 'right'.
(Example A: this discussion lmao)
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 6 pts · 100d
Yikes I did the thing where I replied to what looked like the most relevant comment but wasn't necessarily replying to that individual. Sorry 😐
astropenguin5@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
Ah, all good lmao
Tbh was a decent comment just not in reply to me 😅
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 99d
Never apologize. Coward.
stollen@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 100d
"Socialism is the goal, communism is the way to reach it" is actually what a lot of MLs seem to secretly believe in the sense that they want to use the appeal of communism to motivate people to create socialism. I have seen very little interest from them in actually building communism.
therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 100d
Or even socialism, for that matter - despite the fact that they had oodles of time and resources to do it.
solidheron@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 100d
So is the author saying Che Guevara didn't exist?
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 99d
No he did and still does. I've seen photos of him running around south America doing first aid in the jungle, but they were all very blurry.
solidheron@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 99d
Should get those ai enhanced, but it's good to hear che working with big foot to help those having trouble in the jungle
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 100d
That was what I noticed as well, scare quotes atound his name as if he was a vague or fantastical concept.
The Facebook Boomer form of grammar is fascinatingly stupid.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 99d
Personally I'm a Che truther. He really does exist. A friend of mine found some of his poop once near a recently quenched campfire in Chile.
solidheron@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 100d
Yeah but if I believed in scary quote then I'd think everyone would get scared if I said "lacked good hygiene ritual"
But my next thought was they believe the person in the picture was doubted to be Che. Maybe that adds fantastical element of Che living on and orchestrating events presumably to this day
But the author was being petty
Jarix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 100d
Che isn't his name it's a nickname. I think they're using quotation in the sense of naming convention Ernesto "Che" Guevara would normally be used to denote it is a nick name and not part of his legal name.
I'm old though and reading things with continually common grammar from the last few centuries until the modern digital era has started changing things isn't a problem for me to figure out from the context it's written in unlike those people who are bothered by "scare quotes" that havent been reading things since before the internet existed
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 100d
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FrankFrankson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d