Did Iran really dislike Carter that much to hold hostages until Reagan got in? Why did Reagan set up the Iran contra thing when they were busy hating us?
The issue of whether the Iranian hostages were intentionally held is still debated. I believe it, but it's still not settled fact.
The Iranian government itself was far from united at this point - hence why one of the accusers of the October Surprise Theory is the Iranian president of the time, who asserts that Ayatollah Khomeini and the Islamic hardliners in the government struck the deal with Reagan.
Yes, because Carter was willing to interact with Iran like any other country. Sometimes that meant hostility - as with the failed hostage rescue attempt earlier in 1980. But oftentimes, that meant negotiating and finding common ground - something which may have been found with the left-wing elements of the Iran Revolution, but unlikely to be found with the Islamist hardliners. In other words, Carter might have supported the Islamists' domestic rivals. Reagan, by contrast, promised (implicitly) to give the Islamists the siege-state they needed to rally support, and would never have offered support to even mild left-wing elements. Both Reagan and the Islamists saw a convenient enemy in the other - and neither gave a fuck what price the Iranian people might pay so the two could get their rocks off playing nationalist-theocrat dick-measuring contests on the international stage.
Because Reagan was a shitbag without any morals or loyalties.
Ronald Reagan secretly negotiated to keep the Iran hostages captive for an extended period to try to keep President Jimmy Carter from winning reelection.
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PugJesus@piefed.social · 9 pts · 108d
The issue of whether the Iranian hostages were intentionally held is still debated. I believe it, but it's still not settled fact.
The Iranian government itself was far from united at this point - hence why one of the accusers of the October Surprise Theory is the Iranian president of the time, who asserts that Ayatollah Khomeini and the Islamic hardliners in the government struck the deal with Reagan.
Yes, because Carter was willing to interact with Iran like any other country. Sometimes that meant hostility - as with the failed hostage rescue attempt earlier in 1980. But oftentimes, that meant negotiating and finding common ground - something which may have been found with the left-wing elements of the Iran Revolution, but unlikely to be found with the Islamist hardliners. In other words, Carter might have supported the Islamists' domestic rivals. Reagan, by contrast, promised (implicitly) to give the Islamists the siege-state they needed to rally support, and would never have offered support to even mild left-wing elements. Both Reagan and the Islamists saw a convenient enemy in the other - and neither gave a fuck what price the Iranian people might pay so the two could get their rocks off playing nationalist-theocrat dick-measuring contests on the international stage.
Because Reagan was a shitbag without any morals or loyalties.
Patnou@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 107d
Jesus man quit putting our users to shame especially us mods...lol much love to you and thanks for the reply.
mrdown@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 103d
0- Zero was cia spies trying to counter the revolution within the hostages those was legitimate while the other people hostages was not.
mrdown@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 108d
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 108d
https://jacobin.com/2023/03/ronald-reagan-jimmy-carter-1980-election-october-surprise-iran-hostage-conspiracy-theory
Patnou@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 105d
Did anyone ever call him out on this?
msokiovt@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 94d
That looks like what the Vatican does when playing both sides. That's my opinion on the matter.