A nation so democratic, that they intentionally designed their system to have electors vote on your behalf because they believed the common man was too stupid to properly participate in democracy.
I'll need your definition of socialism, and "because the PRC said so" doesn't change the material conditions of the nation. Just as the DPRK being called that doesn't make it democratic.
Do I need to point at the so "North Korea is a democracy because it has democracy in the name" sign again?
Yes, the Nazis had some socialist leanings in the early days - but they were all eliminated once the Nazis came to power cementing them with Hitlers more pro-capital and anti-socialist side of the party rather than the more economically socialist Strasserites. So weren't the government of the Nazi Reich, and out of the way long before the Second World War.
Mussolini's PNF are a more interesting and murky choice, as Mussolini came from and had some more left wing views, and even though they crimibalised strikes they did at least give more heed to resolving class conflict - albeit as fascists do by conquest.
Israel is a good shout, and it was much more socialist back in its early days. Sadly, since the economic reforms of 85 with its privatisation of state services, cuts, and general adoption of neoliberal economic policy I don't think counts as Socialist... And it only really got full fascy after then, the assassination of the leader in the 90s for the Oslo Accords and following elections makes a good mark for Israel turning unapologetically fascist I think
the most democratic nations according to The Economist Democracy Index, getting a score of 9.00 or more out of ten are:
Every nordic country
new zealand
ireland
seitzerland
netherlands
united states is a flawed democracy with a score of 7.65, the score has been only decreasing since 2006
21 Comments
inlandempire@jlai.lu · 77 pts · 120d
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?!
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 42 pts · 120d
hmm UK, US, France, Canada and a whole lot more fit that bill. I thought Orwell was trying to warn us, but in reality he was a prophet.
big_slap@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 120d
wake up babe, new religion just dropped
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 120d
It's not that he was a prophet. It's that people used 1984 as a manual
village604@adultswim.fan · 29 pts · 120d
It's clearly not the US because we've been a failed democracy and a police state for a long time.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 19 pts · 120d
America? The UK? Germany?
SatansDaughter@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 120d
Let me guess, is it... All of them
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 120d
Godric@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 120d
Conclusion: Shut the fuck up about democracy and republics if you want to have one.
/s
Furbag@pawb.social · 6 pts · 119d
A nation so democratic, that they intentionally designed their system to have electors vote on your behalf because they believed the common man was too stupid to properly participate in democracy.
And then they never changed that winning formula!
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 120d
jeez, I didnt know this issue was THAT widespread
Chais@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 120d
Capitalism breeds fascism 🤷
tobebannedbygaymods@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 120d
not necessarily , most fascist countries are actually socialist
Semjeza@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 120d
Really? I'll bite. Name 3, and please note that:
tobebannedbygaymods@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 118d
Israel WWII Germany WWII Italy also the west used to call the al-baath party a "fascist party" because its a socialist party
Semjeza@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 116d
Do I need to point at the so "North Korea is a democracy because it has democracy in the name" sign again?
Yes, the Nazis had some socialist leanings in the early days - but they were all eliminated once the Nazis came to power cementing them with Hitlers more pro-capital and anti-socialist side of the party rather than the more economically socialist Strasserites. So weren't the government of the Nazi Reich, and out of the way long before the Second World War.
Mussolini's PNF are a more interesting and murky choice, as Mussolini came from and had some more left wing views, and even though they crimibalised strikes they did at least give more heed to resolving class conflict - albeit as fascists do by conquest.
Israel is a good shout, and it was much more socialist back in its early days. Sadly, since the economic reforms of 85 with its privatisation of state services, cuts, and general adoption of neoliberal economic policy I don't think counts as Socialist... And it only really got full fascy after then, the assassination of the leader in the 90s for the Oslo Accords and following elections makes a good mark for Israel turning unapologetically fascist I think
tobebannedbygaymods@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 116d
israel was always fascist , the entire zionist ideology is fascist !
Semjeza@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 116d
Zionism, especially it's modern incarnation: sure.
But there was a struggle for Israel's soul that fascism won, due to that Zionist influence. But it needn't have necessarily won.
It was fascist in its paramilitary early days, too. But that also predated the state.
general_kitten@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 119d
the most democratic nations according to The Economist Democracy Index, getting a score of 9.00 or more out of ten are: Every nordic country new zealand ireland seitzerland netherlands
united states is a flawed democracy with a score of 7.65, the score has been only decreasing since 2006
wikipedia source
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 120d
Canadia?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 120d
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 120d
Nie wieder Wehrpflicht!