Hrmmmm we don’t know.. something tells us that’s not a windmill, but more like a gathering of a few hundred people standing in a field in the shape of a wind turbine… but we’re not entirely sure, so we’ll take your word on it.
The two sources of energy don't have to be competition. Those on either side trying to make that happen are just defeating the fight against fossil fuels. They want the squabbling to distract from their dominance.
Nuclear is expensive and produces a shit ton of waste. Green energy is cheap and produces way less waste.
And don't start on "but green energy can't produce enough energy" when people who have solar panels are being fucking punished for producing "too much" energy while the local fossil fuel run power station can produce however much it likes.
Nuclear doesn't produce all that much waste compared to how much energy you get out of it especially with modern reactors. Sure what you get out can be highly radioactive with a half life shorter than a Victorian child miners life expectancy, but we can contain that relatively easily or just drop it onto Utah nothing of worth outside of a couple parks going on there.
Burning coal puts more nuclear waste into the atmosphere than nuclear does. Nuclear causes less deaths than pretty much all power sources, even some green ones.
Until coal and gas have been done away with completely, nuclear is a better option .
Correct. I was just pointing out that a lot of the problems with nuclear are more or less solved. Before anyone brings up Fukashima I'm going to point out that was raw neglegence, the company running the reactor was told multiple times to move the backup generators up hill in case of tsunamis and guess what they didn't do.
Every last executive for that company needs to be tared, feathered, and ignited.
There are 74 sites across the USA for those long-term waste. Some are very sensible sites like dry storage sites.those sites are costing taxpayers billions.
Given how ineffective the US economy is that may as well be a completely meaningless statement. I know damned well there are contracts out there that cost billions but the actual expense is only in the millions wages and whatnot included because the company is being bribed and bribing politicians in a corruption circle jerk.
The city of Hamm had a nuclear power plant in the 80s, but it was quickly shut down because of safety concerns and multiple incidents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THTR-300
In the short operational life span of THTR-300 from 1985 to 1989, with only 423 full-load operating day equivalents, 80 incidents were logged.
Oh come on what is this argument, other than a gross generalisation?
The THTR-300 served as a prototype high-temperature reactor
This was one prototype reactor, which by the looks of it may have been managed by some incompetent people.
Concluding from this that nuclear power is inherently unsafe, is like saying air travel is unsafe, because the 737 MAX fell out of the sky a few times.
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Rooskie91@discuss.online · 24 pts · 104d
Oh shit, don't tell Don Quixote!
valek879@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 104d
The giants are back and attacking hundreds of people!
sweetheart01@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 103d
Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 103d
Don't call them windmill, they're wind turbines. ☝️
A windmill uses wind power to mill grain. Using the correct terminology—"wind turbine" accurately reflects the technology's role in renewable energy
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 3 pts · 103d
In Australia, most windmills are water pumps.
allan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 103d
Milling water from the earth
5765313496@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 103d
That's why it's called ground water.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 103d
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyaHI3eThubjZqZ24zeWh5OTAxczFlZ3drdnFiYzcwemR2NGU0d2VzNiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/116a8zosxwA0SI/200w.gif
GarboDog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d
Hrmmmm we don’t know.. something tells us that’s not a windmill, but more like a gathering of a few hundred people standing in a field in the shape of a wind turbine… but we’re not entirely sure, so we’ll take your word on it.
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 103d
They absolutely need to do this in Washington DC on the 4th so the president can see how awesome they are.
reader@lemmy.zip · -9 pts · 104d
ironically in front of nuke pp
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 13 pts · 104d
The two sources of energy don't have to be competition. Those on either side trying to make that happen are just defeating the fight against fossil fuels. They want the squabbling to distract from their dominance.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d
Nuclear is expensive and produces a shit ton of waste. Green energy is cheap and produces way less waste.
And don't start on "but green energy can't produce enough energy" when people who have solar panels are being fucking punished for producing "too much" energy while the local fossil fuel run power station can produce however much it likes.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 103d
Nuclear doesn't produce all that much waste compared to how much energy you get out of it especially with modern reactors. Sure what you get out can be highly radioactive with a half life shorter than a Victorian child miners life expectancy, but we can contain that relatively easily or just drop it onto Utah nothing of worth outside of a couple parks going on there.
realitista@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 103d
Burning coal puts more nuclear waste into the atmosphere than nuclear does. Nuclear causes less deaths than pretty much all power sources, even some green ones.
Until coal and gas have been done away with completely, nuclear is a better option .
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 103d
Correct. I was just pointing out that a lot of the problems with nuclear are more or less solved. Before anyone brings up Fukashima I'm going to point out that was raw neglegence, the company running the reactor was told multiple times to move the backup generators up hill in case of tsunamis and guess what they didn't do.
Every last executive for that company needs to be tared, feathered, and ignited.
realitista@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 103d
Oh I was answering the wrong post ;-)
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 103d
Honestly it read like it was a further elaboration on mine so that's just what I figured it was.
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 103d
Renewable also
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 103d
There are 74 sites across the USA for those long-term waste. Some are very sensible sites like dry storage sites.those sites are costing taxpayers billions.
Soulg@ani.social · 3 pts · 103d
Ok and if that's the cost of switching to nuclear over fucking coal and oil then it's a good thing
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 103d
Renewables and storage can do that too
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 103d
Given how ineffective the US economy is that may as well be a completely meaningless statement. I know damned well there are contracts out there that cost billions but the actual expense is only in the millions wages and whatnot included because the company is being bribed and bribing politicians in a corruption circle jerk.
llii@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 103d
This is not a nuclear power plant, but a natural gas one: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gersteinwerk
The city of Hamm had a nuclear power plant in the 80s, but it was quickly shut down because of safety concerns and multiple incidents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THTR-300
Nuclear power is really great.
stormeuh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d
Oh come on what is this argument, other than a gross generalisation?
This was one prototype reactor, which by the looks of it may have been managed by some incompetent people. Concluding from this that nuclear power is inherently unsafe, is like saying air travel is unsafe, because the 737 MAX fell out of the sky a few times.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 104d
How do you know it's nuclear?
Novocirab@feddit.org · 15 pts · 104d
It's the Gersteinwerk, a fossil gas power plant - map
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 104d
Didn't look nuclear to me, thanks
modus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 103d
Because it's made of atoms.
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 103d
that's what all thermal centrals look like, not just nuclear one
aramis87@fedia.io · 0 pts · 104d
Most likely because of the nuclear power plant.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 104d
Not a nuclear power plant
GarboDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 103d
Yeah, we think they’re trying to make a shape of a wind turbine, not a nuclear power plant /joking