I suppose people are waiting to see if a prominent person is accused. Or maybe for accusations that are outrageous.
The stupidest thing about conspiracy theories is that they often assume that if "the public only knew" then something would change. "The public" doesn't give a fuck.
My opinion is that people just wanted to lock up Trump (or Clinton), and all the raped little girls are beside the point.
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nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 29 pts · 78d
There's plenty actionable info in public already. Just nobody in the administration taking action.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -5 pts · 78d
Actionable how?
crapwittyname@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 76d
You are a paedophile defender. Do you realise that? Why are you out here arguing against the people who are trying to expose paedophiles?
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 76d
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 78d
What's public is very strategic. They published the wild but unverifiable stuff from random people . Syuff like Trump throwing children off boats or burying child trafficking victims in his very-visible golf courses. Stuff that isn't even looked into because it'sa random crazy person making random crazy person claims. But it still generates a report.
I work in government and deal with crazy people. I had a woman show up at City Hall last year for her meeting she arranged with Trump and Musk to help them overcome their differences. She insisted it was a real meeting, because she sent a meeting invite through Outlook. Then she forwarded me the invite.
So if someone sends an Open Records request to the City about any records involving Musk or Trump, there will be a record of a scheduled meeting between crazy lady, Trump, Musk, and me.
Those are the kind of records they are flooding us with right now with the currently-released files. This way, when the real stuff slips through it's dismissed by many as just more crazy stuff.
stormeuh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 77d
It's definitely this, but also shock and awe. Release everything all at once, but also not really everything, so there's a shitstorm of reporting with outlandish stories and ongoing criminality. The end goal of that is to traumatise the public into thinking nothing can be done, because everyone is both overwhelmed by the firehose of information.
rayyy@piefed.social · 9 pts · 77d
We, the people, are waiting for ACCOUNTABILITY.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 77d
Accountability isn't going to come from the government, those are the same people in the files.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 76d
CSA survivor here, people really don't care as much as you'd think they should
iocase@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 76d
It's why it's so incredibly common (I'm also a survivor.) I often wonder how many people are pedos but you just never know. The apathy surrounding it must mean a lot more of them than we realize are pedos...
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 75d
I feel like there are a lot of seemingly loving families with dark secrets. And they protect them in the family.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · 4 pts · 78d
What is public that is actionable?
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 19 pts · 78d
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -3 pts · 78d
There was a guillotine in the Epstein files?
voidsignal@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 78d
no but it's time we add one to the story
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -8 pts · 78d
Maybe -- based on what?
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 13 pts · 78d
Mostly the raped kids... Do you need more than that?
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -12 pts · 78d
What pages of publically released Epstein files prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an individual rapes kids?
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 78d
This administration DOJ is run by president's criminal lawyer, who wants to stay away from the files (interestingly doesn't even go after Democrats).
So no, as long this is done don't get a proper trial.
But with actions of this administration, you can't deny that at very least trump and Republicans do everything in their power to protect pedophiles, it does to the point that trump is ok with breaking the law that nearly every Congress person voted for, ruining his own legacy by being labeled one instead releasing the files and at very least cleaning up his own name.
So yeah, that to me is a proof beyond a reasonable doubt that we are being run by pedophiles and pedophile protectors.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 77d
Most of them.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 78d
Even ignoring the child rape, they're billionaires. Reason enough as is.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -8 pts · 78d
So just populist brainrot. Got it.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 78d
Not hearing an actual rebuttal, just name calling
yesman@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 78d
Nothing important, just hundreds of raped children. Many Americans go on and on about how they hate and would never tolerate stuff like that. liars.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -10 pts · 78d
100s of confirmed raped children? Do you have any pages I can look at?
No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 78d
I don't want the Epstein papers for myself to read.
I want these out so the child fuckers and pedo protectors face their crimes.
We're not the same.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -1 pts · 78d
Not sure what that has to do with my comment...
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 78d
Not the same, dude. 100s!
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus · 4 pts · 78d
Have a look for yourself. These are JUST the emails, could you imagine what the terabytes of videos they have hold within that haven’t been released yet?
https://jmail.world/
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -2 pts · 78d
Can you give me your strongest example of an actionable email?
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 78d
I will not do your research for you, sorry. I gave you the link, so maybe use it?
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -2 pts · 78d
Why are you assuming I haven't already looked through these emails?
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 78d
I'm sure you have. That is why you are asking "what is actionable" to everyone's points.. Anyway, you should really look at them. You'll find plenty of them, if you actually look. Have a good one.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -2 pts · 78d
I have looked through them, and yes I'm asking the people saying that there are absolutely "actionable" items in them to show me... any? You know, the barebones for backing up a claim...
But you all refuse, for some reason.
pinto@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
Trump isn't going to fuck you, bro. He's too into children. Stop the simping for him.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -5 pts · 78d
Funny, heard this line all the time from MAGA during COVID.
Has the left really brainrotted this hard?
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 76d
I've been going down a YouTube rabbithole about a recent LEGO related scandal. It's a long and complicated story I won't go into but it involves corruption being exposed in a company called Bricks and Minfigs and corruption also being exposed in a police department in Utah. People are being sued left and right, the guy who spread the word about the corruption is in danger of going to jail, BAM is losing a lot of business, but I haven't heard anything about the police being held accountable for their actions. The general public is punishing the big business involved by boycotting, but I don't know of anything being done to punish the corrupt police.
So I just keep thinking throughout this how exposing the corruption to the public leads to consequences if the corrupt group is a big business, but virtually nothing is dine when it's a government agency. And what can the public do? Can't boycott the police. We can demand accountability but we only have so much power. The main power people have over government is leveraging votes but now the American government is plotting to make voting harder. Exposing corruption to the public may damage big businesses but the public seems to be helpless when the government is corrupt. A fucking criminal organization is running the federal government and almost nothing is being done about it. The public all know. Now what's to be done?
Update: since posting this comment, I heard that the people in Fork, Utah are protesting over this. I wonder if they'll also be having a NO King's protest in that town today
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 78d
Just Vote! The Dems will do the right thing once they are back in power.
(I’m pictured in the middle of this image.)
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 78d
Isn't it interesting they don't even go after Democrats, like Bill Clinton, Gates etc?
Yeah Clinton had hearing, but that just a spectacle, I'm saying there's no DOJ investigation.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 77d
If they go after a single person in the files it opens the doors to go after everyone in the files, they won’t do shit.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 76d
Yeah, that is probably right.
I also think that once you are rich enough to be in that club, political affiliation is just for show for plebs like us and in reality they are all friends.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 76d
Their only political allegiances are to money and power, every single fucking one of them.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -5 pts · 78d
You have insider info as to what the DOJ does/does not investigate?
Also funny that when stuff happens, oh that doesn't count, it's just for show.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 76d
They said last summer, that there's no one else to investigate.
They made it look like if Epstein's crime was just downloading some CP from the Internet.
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 78d
The DOJ has made many statements over the last 1.5 years about the Epstein investigation being concluded with absolutely 0 evidence of human trafficking or even any wrongdoing by any parties involved, including Epstein and Ghislaine. It is a fact, told to us by the DOJ themselves, that they are not doing and will not do anything about the Epstein situation.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -2 pts · 78d
Can you share an example of one?
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 78d
https://youtube.com/shorts/szBudPG7fdM?is=BSjrK4uwDZabkPqh
One of hundreds of examples just from the Acting AG who has only been in it for a few months...do some digging yourself, Him and Bondi as well as others from the DOJ have even testified with claims that no evidence of wrongdoing exists nor will they continue investigations unless it's democrat politicians or billionaires who fail to pay sufficient bribes to the current administration.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · -3 pts · 78d
Did you watch that clip before linking it?
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 78d
100s!