Even with the explanation this is confusing (rule)

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SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz · 199 pts · 3y (13 replies)

The creator of these comics is a Christian, with the message of them being a Christian message/allegory.

The message here is that if you disconnect yourself from God and try to live independent from God, you lose your purpose and/or are helpless to fulfill your "true purpose" (which, to a Christian, "true purpose" = serving/following God).

That said: I'd strongly suggest that people stop posting these comics and giving this guy attention. They're meant for Christians and are not really relevant to people outside of that.

EDIT: I made a (regrettable) visit to the website to satisfy my curiosity and found the title & description:

Absolute Freedom โ€“ God (in control of all things) gives us freedom to choose what to do, but we don't get to choose the outcome.

Make of that what you will.

Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 3y (6 replies)

They're also shit cartoons.

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 3y (5 replies)

they never land, like there's a missing piece of communication to them all

Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 3y (4 replies)

All "Christian" media is like that, their music, movies, comics, everything. There's just something missing.

agnomeunknown@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 3y (2 replies)

What's missing is that you haven't drank the Kool aid, if I had to guess. They lean entirely on you being a believer (and usually a devout one) for any of their material to land, whether it's comedy or drama or music or whatever.

Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 3y (1 reply)

I also feel they think too highly of themselves, and aren't willing to laugh at themselves. A lot of humour relies on being willing to laugh at yourself, your mistakes, and your beliefs, and Christian fundies aren't willing to do that.

Noodle07@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y

That's the case of any fanatics

Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 3y

"it's up for interpretation"

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 3y (1 reply)

DIVINE LINK SEVERED

YOU ARE A FLESH AUTOMATON

autokludge@programming.dev · 7 pts · 3y

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

eldain@feddit.nl · 16 pts · 3y

The puppeteer can make you cut your own ties at any time and leave you in a ditch 'cause you were kept a dependent weakling. The author is accidentally promoting self reliance, because that interpretation is not allowed to him or his public. Stupid comics.

corrupts_absolutely@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 3y (1 reply)
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SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 3y

Explaining & clowning on religious media/"art" in any form sounds good to me. ๐Ÿ‘

paraphrand@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 3y

I guess that explains the way they watermarked it.

dingus@lemmy.ml · 55 pts · 3y (3 replies)

Some people shouldn't be cartoonists, or they should lean hard into absurdism.

Xariphon@kbin.social · 12 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Christians and being absurd do tend to go together.

Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 3y (1 reply)

2 Samuel 3:14 - the bible verse that best gauges how seriously the book should be taken

Xariphon@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y

Right up there with the magic bears.

moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 42 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Why do these keep getting posted? The original artist is not a good guy.

Maven@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 3y

Mockery mostly

youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 3y (3 replies)

They trying to say that you are dependent on the control of others and incapable of functioning on your own free will? Because fuck that.

UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y

Worse, it's an allegory for losing your faith in God. I visited the website and it's full of comics with similar messages. If you value your sanity, I suggest you stay away from the website.

Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Have you never heard the term "no man is an island"?

youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3y

We all need community, we donโ€™t need to silently obey our overlord puppeteers

unreachable@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 3y (2 replies)

its the bicycle fall meme in another theme

key@lemmy.keychat.org · 39 pts · 3y (1 reply)

With some potentially gross political implications.

rockSlayer@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 3y

That was my initial read of the comic. "Nooo, don't cut off the puppetmasters, we need them because we have no agency of our own"

Endorkend@kbin.social · 17 pts · 3y (1 reply)

If I recall correctly, Jonathan M Lam is a right wing very Christian cartoonist.

So in that context, God gave free will, the free will enables you to cut anything that ties you down, but, even the hand you use to cut yourself free, was controlled by God to begin with.

And once completely removed from God, you "insert some Christian bullshit".

Having free will doesn't mean you should use it bullshit.

Same old bullshit.

Maven@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y

Yeah it's basically that.

juliebean@lemm.ee · 17 pts · 3y (2 replies)

given the 'atm robber comic' from the same cartoonist recently posted, i am guessing that it's somehow meant to represent becoming an atheist. you reject the strings of god and it makes you bad at dancing.

Johanno@feddit.de · 13 pts · 3y

Weird, I feel much more free and in control since I am responsible for my actions instead of god

Bizarroland@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y

So that must mean that George Michael is an atheist because he's never going to dance again since guilty feet have got no rhythm

xrtxn@lemmy.sdf.org · 15 pts · 3y (1 reply)

I don't like the government controlling me!

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TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 3y

proceeds to vote for the government controlling them

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Roundcat@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 3y (1 reply)

My favorite Deltarune boss!

bi_tux@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y

Must say that I liked most (not all) Undertale bosses better than the Deltarune bosses (so far)

Cardboardboxo@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 3y (1 reply)

It pulls the strings and makes them ring.

match@pawb.social · 1 pts · 3y

The stage lights are shattered.

agoramachina@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 3y

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Hazdaz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y (1 reply)

All the strings are loose and she's dancing perfectly fine and she's happy. But when she cuts those strings, which clearly weren't actually doing anything, she falls apart. So she needs that support even if it is mostly just for show.

Maven@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y

This is a much better metaphor than what the author explained it as.

spacesweedkid27@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y

I literally saw no Deltarune reference. I am disappointed.

conno02@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y

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ChrisLicht@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 3y (3 replies)
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Maven@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Based on the description the author gave on the website it's a critique of atheists. It's actually about how God gives the freedom to be an atheist but then God won't protect you from the consequences of being free from him. Yada yada

ChrisLicht@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 3y

FWIW, my take was stupid. Deleted almost immediately.

Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y

Yeah. That's pretty dumb. I like it as an allusion to how we all rely on a lot of other people to get things done. Maybe some can go inna woods with an sks and live forever but most can't.